I was woundering whats the most prower made on a 84 mm b16 boosted motor.

 

i dont think their is a exact answer as everyone is different and builds a block for different reasons.

be it 1.6-2.0L motors. both can make equal power, larger bore is going to make more torque.

but you have to have a equally great turbo kit to make the supporting power the block can take

so in reality it just depends on the person and what they are looking to do.

in reality a block can be built for 800whp however its not realistic

1.6L can be built for 800whp so bore doesnt really matter its all in the turbo kit

 

Terry (BoostFed) hit around the 700whp marker I think.

 

Thanks for the info. I was wondering what would i need to make 6 to 700 hp? I have 84 mm custom wiseco pistons that have been top and side coated and crower billet rods. i am also getting my block sleeved. do u have any tips on what kind of headwork and cams i need? any info will be appreciate

 

I made 676whp 402 ft-lb torque a couple of years ago, it was the most at that time as far as I knew. RLZ Engineering made 714whp though on their old B16A on a Dynapak that reads low

 

what type of turbo kit are you going to be using to make that kinda power.... its going to need to be pretty top notch

along with EMS and fuel and a great tune

what kinda turbo kit are you looking to go with or what do you have already?

 

I have a peakboost manifold and downpipe with a 60-1 that i'm going to sell and 750 hp persison intercooler with s 300.I was thinking about going with a gt 40 turbo

 

I would try out the gtr4088

 

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Yes a GT4088R would work great! A friend of mine has one on his 84mm B16A made 630whp went 9.68@157mph

 

I have a set of Pauter Rods for a B16 for a great price. If nobody buys them soon I am going to use them. Trying to go SFWD and I like the idea of a high rev B16 on serious boost.

 

pauter is really good had a set in a built sohc i had beefy

 

Excuse my ignorance but can someone fill me in on the advantage of the 84mm bore on the B16? I am assuming it just helps get the 16 torque numbers up, and then we can take advantage of the bottom end torque and the hight revving top. I don't know if there are downsides that come with this as well, but this thread has be very curious.

If there is a thread somewhere, feel free to point me in that direction as to not throw this one OT too much.

 

I just want to say thanks to everyone for there help.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrrogers1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Excuse my ignorance but can someone fill me in on the advantage of the 84mm bore on the B16? I am assuming it just helps get the 16 torque numbers up, and then we can take advantage of the bottom end torque and the hight revving top. I don't know if there are downsides that come with this as well, but this thread has be very curious.

If there is a thread somewhere, feel free to point me in that direction as to not throw this one OT too much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When it comes to a boosted motor, there's very few replacements for displacement Stroking a motor will usually yeild more low-mid range, increasing bore can help all over - although both have reasonable limits. IMO its not much more to get a b18a/b/c1 block over a b16, esp if you're tossing 1k in sleeves in there, with rods/pistons that cost the same for all. 2.0L b18 &gt; 1.8L b16

 

Power advantage is not in the B16's favor vs. the B18's. But rightnow power isn't as critical as it use to be. Ther is alot of high 600 whp cars in the low 10's or high 9's and ther is alot of 800 whp car just touching high 9's and running alot of low 10's. Traction is more important than big power rightnow. To run SFWD class you need at least 650whp and a good powerband to put it down. I think the B16 has an slight adavntage when it comes to powerband wher traction is a concern. Lower torque than B18 with high peaking topend powerband. I know on the streets alot of times a B16 turbo will hand a B18 turbo his *** while he puts on a tire spinning show. Just my 2 cents

 

you have a IM

 

i have a 84.5mm b16 and made 636whp and 462ftlbs on jeff evans dynopac and my buddy has a 81.5mm b16 that made 630whp and 400ftlbs on the same dyno.
im going to try and make 700 with a bigger turbo and head work for next year

 

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im going to try and make 700 with a bigger turbo and head work for next year</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much boost on each setup to get these numbers? I would imagine the 84mm setup is running a little less, but I'd love to know what your two were running.

That is great info.

ETA: I now see (from your sig) that you were running 34lb on your setup, so do you know how much your buddy was running? Also, what turbo you each chose to run on your setups? If you are in an extra generous mood, a dyno plot (of at least yours) would be extremely helpful as well. Thanks!


Modified by mrrogers1 at 11:07 AM 11/17/2006

 

my car is the 84.5mm and is running 34psi with a sc6152e,and my buddies car is using a gt35r and is on 33psihttp://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=4002(that curts) mine is not posted there.will post it for you later to see

 

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Thanks!

 

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heres my dyno graph

 

i cant even imagine the pull from 5-6k in that car^^^^

 

nice very nice numbers

 

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...wow...150 whp to 575 whp in 1500 rpms from 5k to 6.5k....dayum!

 

B16 own philp... I wish i would have kept my B16 setup.... Hit me up..