I am ready to buy a crx but the price difference between a 87 and an 88 is quite a bit. I am assuming it's because of shape of the 88 compared to the 87s. I might be doing a engine swap but not for awhile. Is there any disadvantages between the 87 to the 88s, besides it being older.

TIA,

Chuck

 

yeh teh 87 is gona be harder to work with if u wanna go turbo but any b series wil bolt in with the aid of a kit teh 88 will also but the kit is less expensive 649 for 87 and 375 for teh 88 then u need other parts for the 87 such as new axles iwtch are 250 and its just alot of work fro the 87 cause its small as poop in the engine bay...

 

i bet you 5 bucks that there is prob only about 3 square inches differences between 1st and 2nd gen hood area. it just looks smaller because the hood is bigger on the 2nd gen, and on the 1st gen is a header panel.

its not the size of the engine bay, its the generation of the car. the engines mount a different way, and, with the exception of the Si, all 1st gen rexes are carbed.

if you want to be unique, and be just a tad faster, go with the 87. if your poorer than i am, and you LIKE looking like everyone else, go with the 88.

 

i dunno but 3 inches in the front of the motor says u can turbo me or hey look how close i am to the radiator hahah no turbo in here.... thats all the 87 and 86 i have if i put a b16 theres no way a turbo would fit in there

 

It all depends on what you want to do. If you go with the 87 try to stick with the Si. The fact that it is fuel injected will make things a lot easier when it comes swap time. The 87 DX & HF are carbed, hence the difficulties. All 88 models are fuel injected. The Si and HF have the more desirable MPFI system. The DX has DPFI. This has been covered extensively so I won't go into it here. Another thing to consider is the 87 Si will be pre OBD while the 88 will be OBD0. And finally Honda decided to screw all of us who own 88's (or 89 HF) by changing a lot of things between the 88 and 89 model years. This just means that certain parts are very year specific.

Hope this helps.


[Modified by wronghand, 9:35 PM 5/8/2002]

 

88 is non obd by honda standards...its pre obd1
87 is the same ecu as a 88 same plugs just a few missing wires thats all it not hard to add pins to a harness at all

 

I have to disagree with you on this one. the 86-87 ecu's are not compatible with the 88-89. The perfect example of this is ZC swap into a 2nd generation or a D16A1 swap into a 1st generation. We all know that you need the 88-89 teg ecu for the ZC while you have to use the 86-87 teg ecu for the D16A1.

86-87 = pre OBD
88-91 = OBD0
92-95 = OBD1
96-Current = OBD2

 

WOW!!! I had no idea the difference was that great. I didn't even think about buying only the crxs with FI to make it easier when i do an engine swap. Thanks guys!!! Lots of very good info.

Chuck




[Modified by Chaze*R, 10:24 PM 5/7/2002]

 

do u have a 86 or 87 car???no? wow i have both a 86 and a 87 crx si and the ecu from my 88 hatch a pm6 si ecu will plug into the harness...i know this cause i tried the only diff is there are less sensors due to vacume advance distribure and a few less on the motor...

 

You say the ecu will plug into the harness. But, will it run the car? Or better yet, will it run the car in a manner in which it is drivable? I don't doubt that it will plug into the harness. I do have some doubt as to how well the motor will run with the mismatched ecu.

*edit
After a little further research I have realized that one of my comments may have been a little inaccurate. I said the the 86-87 were pre OBD and the 88-91 were OBD0. Pre OBD and OBD0 are actually two terms for the same thing. However, I stand by my comments that the ecu's are not compatible.


[Modified by wronghand, 9:51 PM 5/8/2002]

 

read wut i said the first time never did i say that the 88-91 obd would run a 86-87 motor...it could if u used teh distributer from a 88-89 car but the 86-87 has a vacume advance distributer...as for teh plugs they are teh same....wut i was getting at if u were to get a 86-87 si and have lets say a b16a from a 91 ef8 or wutever..u could run a pw0 ecu with only a few extra pins added to teh stock ecu harness...no do u understand???

 

You never said anything about the distributor.

This sounds an awful lot like you can use the 88 ecu to run the 87 car.

I may have misunderstood what you meant. But you weren't real clear. All I ever said was that the 2 ecu's weren't compatible, which is true. That is when you jumped my ****.

 

i didnt jump ur **** man....all i did was try and explain how it wasnt hard to wire a 88-91 ecu in a 86-87 car for a b16 swap....thats wut the thread was about i was only clearing up ur info a lil bit

 

Cool man, sorry for the misunderstanding!