Im going to be changing my turbo setup this coming season as I dont like my setup this year, just to much power and not the power band I want. I want to make a fun car to drive around on the street, that has power everywhere.

It will be going in a Crx, d16 motor with forged internals and some headwork. Capable of probably pushing the turbo to its limits, or atleast the dsm 450's. @ 15-18psi

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

Thats the turbo I want, its aparently ball bearing. Ive been searching on them on here and people say they spool incredibly quick but all those motors were b series and the actual garrett turbos. Not the SSAC knockoff's.

I also dont know much about the turbine sizing, some people were saying there was a .82 version made? What is this .60/.63 like?

Can anyone make any speculation on what the spool time will be like on a built d16 with VERY short charge piping via backdoor intercooler. Right now I dont see full boost til 5500 and it sucks.

Also, about the internal wastegate, I notice its mounted on the compressor housing, for the backdoor intercooler, Im going to have to clock that compressor housing so the outlet faces the front of the car and down. How would I mount the wastegate? Does it matter? I was hoping to keep it internally gated as I should be able to control it fairly easily right?

Looking for advise here

 

I like to use the internal wastegate, too. You have to make a custom bracket and may have to make a custom link to get the wastegate to fit. This is how mine ended up:



Ignore the rust on the SSAC "stainless" V-band. It's still functional.

 

get a b series.

also your topics are a waste of space on honda tech.

 

There are many solutions to this problem other than a GT28Rs. PM me if you'd like to look at other options that are within your range. please also tell me which flanging you want to use for the manifold and downpipe.

 

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Your posts are LOLtastic. I love them. Thank you.

OP: Get a GT28R. You should be able to score one used in the $500 range.

 

Yeah I personally just want this car for the street so I dont need crazy numbers, I havent lost a race with my huge turbo yet, I just dont like how it drives, I dont like how small my powerband is

So I was thinking since Im bored anyways this winter, I might aswell build my own manifold/downpipe/backdoor intercooler setup with a cheap ($300 cheap) SSAC ball bearing turbo

Was wonderring what I could get/do with it and if ther internal wastegate was any good to somehow allow me to hold a 15-17psi range, even a way to mock it with me clocking the compressor housing

 

If you're buying a turbo with the intentions of maxing it out, I cant see how a SSAC turbo would make any sense at all. Just get an authentic one.. and this is coming from the owner of a SSAC t3/t4

 

No I will not be spending $1000 on a budget built car that I just like to have fun with

This is the turbo im interested in, as its cheap and seems to be perfect for a street ripper with great power all throughout the powerband, and I wouldnt have to wait for boost at all, no downshifting

Will I max it out @ 17psi? I dont know

 

you'll probably max it out before 17psi.....either the injector duty cycle will be maxxed (the hopeful outcome) or the turbo will break....

 

I already maxed out my dsm injectors with my current turbo on 15psi but its much bigger, all I did to solve that was up fuel pressure

Does the housing size of this turbo listed in the ebay auction (.60/.63) seem to large?

Will it still spool ridiculously fast?

 

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As said above buy that turbo.I'm sure it will be smoking within a few thousand miles

 

Internal Wastegate @ 12 - 16 Psi

HP Rating UP TO 575

Hahaha since when do gt28's even remotely hit the 500hp mark.

 

people say if you get ssac turbos just get them rebuilt and they will not break.

 

its better to just get a garrett turbo and forget about it

 

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Well I've had personal experience of this kinda junk.I had my SSAC T3 rebuilt twice.It kinda takes the **** after the second rebuild it starts smoking again.Pulled it apart & the genuine garrett bearings that were fitted were fine.The CHRA was worn giving shaft play of approx 1mm

 

Im not asking about the integrity of the turbo. Im happy trying to use it

Im curious to know if that size turbo will be perfect for what Im trying to accomplish and if boost can be regulated RELIABLY to 17or so psi and how I would accomplish that with internal wastegate

This is just a budget fun build and Ive had no problems with SSAC turbos and a 1/16th restrictor so please no more comments on that

 

but why not do it right the fisr time? its imminite it will blow no doubt, and given that you could get a cheaper garrett turbo and that would work and last much longer

you want great integrity for things not questionable. esp in mechanical parts

 

I dont have $1000 to spend on a real garrett one, and as you can ee from this thread, I change ym setup due to bordem every year anyways. The SSAC turbo Im running right now took a season of daily driving no problem everyday.

Im just curious is this specific turbo I linked to will spool very quickly on my car

 

during my first build i tried to save money and cut corners at times, but in the end i replaced everything i half-assed and now on my new build, i just saved up enough to do everything right the first time...

 

I now a couple guys running the ss turbos without any problems

 

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HP Rating UP TO 575

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not even 400 but more than most people give it credit for:

rmcdaniels
"I ran one for a while, it responded insanely quickly. The clutch was slipping on this session, got it fixed and made over 380 later on a built B16 at around 23 PSI:"

 

Seems to spool a bit late on that dyno graph doesnt it?

Any ideas on if the internal wastegate will actually hold the 16psi reliably?

 

8:1 cr

 

i might try one of those as well, you people need to realize that your almighty t3's have been basicaly the same since they were first produced yeah thats right their design is older than vtakkk,the gt28rs was designed around a sentra with a sr20de, garrets engeineers redesined the compressor and turbine wheels to let it spool and let the turbine flow, it spools like an srt-4, but can flow way more exaust,look into it on a 16 with stock compression you should be around 8-12 psi at 3500 rpm with the 60-63 size
quick question, can anyone say the name of that very lucky sentra?