question about my set-up
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question about my set-up
I have a 97 accord with 67k on the chasis. My set-up is as follows........
Tein SS with metal strut tops
front strut bar
lower rear tie bar
all the bushings are oem
currently I have an h22 swap turboed in it.
Basically the car really doesnt handle like it used to. It feels less stable.
If this is do to all the increased weight short of installing a bushing kit, what else can I do to regain "track like" stability?
Tein SS with metal strut tops
front strut bar
lower rear tie bar
all the bushings are oem
currently I have an h22 swap turboed in it.
Basically the car really doesnt handle like it used to. It feels less stable.
If this is do to all the increased weight short of installing a bushing kit, what else can I do to regain "track like" stability?
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Re: question about my set-up (Drkaccrd)
If you've been lowered for awhile, and didn't reset all your suspension bushings when you lowered it, you have probably killed them all. Check your bushings, if it doesn't feel as solid as before, and replace as needed.
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Re: question about my set-up (TunerN00b)
what bushings in your opinion are affected the most when being lowered? and what do you mean by <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> didn't reset all your suspension bushings when you lowered it</TD></TR></TABLE>?
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Re: question about my set-up (Drkaccrd)
It would include all bushings who's bolts were removed/loosened for the installation of the suspension. This usually means your lower control arm bushings, but could include upper control arms.
When the car is sitting at static ride height (4 wheels on the ground, full weight of the vehicle over the wheels, not moving), you want your bushings to not be twisted or under any load other than that which is being applied by the weight of the car. You can assume that the bushings are like this when the car comes from the factory.
When you install new suspension, you jack up the car so that the suspension is at full droop, with the weight of the brakes/suspension components hanging down. If you install any suspension components this way (such as LCA's, shocks, UCA's) and tighten the bolts while the suspension is at full droop, then when you set the car back down, the bushings will be twisted because they were "set" at full suspension droop, not at static ride height.
You want the bushings to be "set" at static ride height because that is where the car will spend the majority of its time. Obviously, you can't do that while the car is sitting on the ground, so the process of resetting the bushings involves having the car on jackstands.
1. Make sure the bolts that go through the bushings are loosened, not tight.
2. Place a jack under the knuckle and slowly jack the corner upwards until you see the jacking point slightly rise up off the jackstand.
3. At the point where the car rises off the jackstand is where the height at which the corner will be at static ride height, because then you know that it is the spring that is now supporting the weight of the corner. Now, tighten all the bolts. The bushings have been "set" to static ride height.
4. Repeat at the other 3 corners, one at a time to be safe.
When the car is sitting at static ride height (4 wheels on the ground, full weight of the vehicle over the wheels, not moving), you want your bushings to not be twisted or under any load other than that which is being applied by the weight of the car. You can assume that the bushings are like this when the car comes from the factory.
When you install new suspension, you jack up the car so that the suspension is at full droop, with the weight of the brakes/suspension components hanging down. If you install any suspension components this way (such as LCA's, shocks, UCA's) and tighten the bolts while the suspension is at full droop, then when you set the car back down, the bushings will be twisted because they were "set" at full suspension droop, not at static ride height.
You want the bushings to be "set" at static ride height because that is where the car will spend the majority of its time. Obviously, you can't do that while the car is sitting on the ground, so the process of resetting the bushings involves having the car on jackstands.
1. Make sure the bolts that go through the bushings are loosened, not tight.
2. Place a jack under the knuckle and slowly jack the corner upwards until you see the jacking point slightly rise up off the jackstand.
3. At the point where the car rises off the jackstand is where the height at which the corner will be at static ride height, because then you know that it is the spring that is now supporting the weight of the corner. Now, tighten all the bolts. The bushings have been "set" to static ride height.
4. Repeat at the other 3 corners, one at a time to be safe.
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