The time has come to retire my trusty SP5000s. The left front will no longer hold air for longer than three days, and I've got a trip coming up.

I loved the SP5000 because it would handle just about anything. I went through ice and snow on them, and also did a trackday on them (albeit at slower speeds).

I'm looking for something that will offer the same (or better) performance in wet, dry, and snow. I was immensely satisfied with the SP5000s but there must be something better out now - I bought them in 2001.

The Kumho ECSTA ASX looks good and cheap, and has better reviews on TireRack than my old Dunlops. It also comes in the size I want (195/55/15). Anyone have some experience with this tire, or any other in this category?

 

Just posted roughly the same question. Check this link out and read it all Link: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1802883

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It gets cold here but never snows so summer tires will do. Price is a factor, but ofcourse if i can get a cheap set then why not. Treadlife is important, but so is overall performance in wet/dry etc.

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I quoted this from the other thread. I should mention that I live in the DC area, and drive to New England sometimes, so I need a tire to be good in light snow and bitter cold.

 

First, a caveat. All-season tires are a compromise, designed for people who need to use the same tire in snow and frigid cold in the winter, and in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. They don't perform as well as true winter tires in winter, and they don't perform as well as summer tires the rest of the year. If you never drive in snow and frigid cold, you're better off with summer tires. If you live in an area with harsh winters, you're better off getting a second set of wheels and a set of real winter tires. But if you live in an in-between type area that gets mild winters, or if you just can't have more than one set of tires for whatever reason, all-seasons might work for you. 'nuff said.

If all-season tires are what you're looking for, the Kumho Ecsta ASX is a great choice and it's the all-season tire I most often recommend. The very best all-season tires are the Kumho Ecsta ASX, Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position, and an Avon tire whose name I forget. All of these are about as good as you can get in an all-season. The ASX is substantially less expensive than the others. Go for it.

And if you get the ASX, don't forget to send in for your $40 rebate, which makes them even cheaper (although they're a great deal even without the rebate, but hey, forty bucks is forty bucks).

 

i use hankook hr2's all year round up here in alaska... they seem to hold up well in the extreme climate that we have.. and grip pretty good as well..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First, a caveat. All-season tires are a compromise, designed for people who need to use the same tire in snow and frigid cold in the winter, and in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. They don't perform as well as true winter tires in winter, and they don't perform as well as summer tires the rest of the year. If you never drive in snow and frigid cold, you're better off with summer tires. If you live in an area with harsh winters, you're better off getting a second set of wheels and a set of real winter tires. But if you live in an in-between type area that gets mild winters, or if you just can't have more than one set of tires for whatever reason, all-seasons might work for you. 'nuff said.

If all-season tires are what you're looking for, the Kumho Ecsta ASX is a great choice and it's the all-season tire I most often recommend. The very best all-season tires are the Kumho Ecsta ASX, Pirelli PZero Nero M+S, Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position, and an Avon tire whose name I forget. All of these are about as good as you can get in an all-season. The ASX is substantially less expensive than the others. Go for it.

And if you get the ASX, don't forget to send in for your $40 rebate, which makes them even cheaper (although they're a great deal even without the rebate, but hey, forty bucks is forty bucks).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ken, thanks for the info. I think I will go ahead and scoop the Kumhos up, for the price they are just unbeatable.

I understand there is a compromise involved, but I really loved my SP5000, especially their performance in slush and light snow. The Kumhos tested better in those conditions than my old SP5000, so I'm pretty sure they will work for Virginia winters.

Is the rebate through Kumho, TireRack, or what?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First, a caveat. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Something that has plagued me recently is that whenever I try to save money on tyres I end up with something that has tested well, but that gets as noisy as the old Azenis when they wear down some.

I got talked into some prototype Fulda tyres a while back, and they are so noisy now that people tease me when I'm on the phone about what that humming noise could be in the background. They handle great for an all weather tyre, but so noisy.

So if we are in Virginia where we might want to eschew dedicated snow tyres, what can we get that's high performance, all weather, all season, and <u>quiet</u>???

Thanks for any recommendation you can provide.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I got talked into some prototype Fulda tyres a while back, and they are so noisy now that people tease me when I'm on the phone about what that humming noise could be in the background. They handle great for an all weather tyre, but so noisy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

For once, you're not exaggerating. Those tires are super loud, even louder than the old Azenis.

 

I've gone through several pairs of SP5000's, and am currently (ab)using a set of Pirelli Nero M+S's. Both have proven to be very quiet.

 

I just picked up a set of four Avon Tech M550 All Seasons (my stock size is 205/55 ZR 16) for my slowbaru. Pretty decent handling so far for a mud and snow rated tire (barely scrubbed em in yet) and they were a great deal from tirerack ($80 each...). Plus I ordered them on monday, and they were at my doorstep the next day (tirerack rockz). These tires are definitely a great value.



Info Here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...A%2FS

Oops. Just checked and they don't have them in a 15" size... Sorry.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So if we are in Virginia where we might want to eschew dedicated snow tyres, what can we get that's high performance, all weather, all season, and <u>quiet</u>???

Thanks for any recommendation you can provide.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2 I've been driving the old style azenis around and am decided to have two sets of wheels. One with a quiet tires and the other with performance oriented tires.

I think we should all just pm nsxtasy with all tire questions, when it comes down to it, thats the person we are really trying to hear from...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Something that has plagued me recently is that whenever I try to save money on tyres I end up with something that has tested well, but that gets as noisy as the old Azenis when they wear down some.

I got talked into some prototype Fulda tyres a while back, and they are so noisy now that people tease me when I'm on the phone about what that humming noise could be in the background. They handle great for an all weather tyre, but so noisy.

So if we are in Virginia where we might want to eschew dedicated snow tyres, what can we get that's high performance, all weather, all season, and <u>quiet</u>???

Thanks for any recommendation you can provide.</TD></TR></TABLE>

George, the ASX and Pzero Nero M+S are some of the quietest high performance all season tires you can buy. I have put them on customers cars ranging from Maxima's to 5-series BMW's with no complaints. Another good them about them is a non directional tread, so you can rotate in an "X" pattern if they start to feather

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Philly_NBP_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just picked up a set of four Avon Tech M550 All Seasons (my stock size is 205/55 ZR 16) for my slowbaru. Pretty decent handling so far for a mud and snow rated tire (barely scrubbed em in yet) and they were a great deal from tirerack ($80 each...). Plus I ordered them on monday, and they were at my doorstep the next day (tirerack rockz). These tires are definitely a great value.



Info Here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...A%2FS

Oops. Just checked and they don't have them in a 15" size... Sorry. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I just put a set of these on my CL-S in July, and they are quite good in the wet and dry but they haven't seen snow... yet.

 

You might want to check out Toyo Proxes 4. They are a real nice all season tire that offers very nice dry grip. You can find them pretty cheap at the link below.

http://www.treadepot.com

John

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ken, thanks for the info. I think I will go ahead and scoop the Kumhos up, for the price they are just unbeatable.

I understand there is a compromise involved, but I really loved my SP5000, especially their performance in slush and light snow. The Kumhos tested better in those conditions than my old SP5000, so I'm pretty sure they will work for Virginia winters.

Is the rebate through Kumho, TireRack, or what?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The rebate (see link in my previous post) is direct from Kumho, and is valid with any Kumho dealer. Just remember to send in the form within 30 days of your purchase.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1fastVX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might want to check out Toyo Proxes 4. They are a real nice all season tire that offers very nice dry grip. You can find them pretty cheap at the link below.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmmm...

1. The Proxes 4 doesn't come in the 195/55-15 size Ross wants.

2. The Proxes 4 is nowhere near as good as any of the four all-season tires I previously mentioned (and yes, the Tech M550 A/S is the Avon tire whose name I didn't recall).

3. The Proxes 4 is also more expensive than the Kumho ASX in the sizes where both are available.

4. The Toyo prices in the link you provided are higher than at places like onlinetires.com