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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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98 SH - 95k miles– new break job 5k miles ago (Brembo blanks/Axxis Ultitmates).

I hear a heavy squeak in the front middle to right axle area. almost a scrubbing in a rotational pattern as I reduce torque by not being in gear or by pushing in the clutch - with NO breaking. The noise also occurs while accelerating , but is more of a light squeak. It has gotten bad on longer trips to the point of a felt shake.

last week
honda service tech: your pads arent oem, they squeak. $220 for new OEM breaks.
me: i sounds like its an axle or the ATTS unit
honda service tech: i will check it again
me: cool :yeah right: ... and i pick the car up later that day with a "decline for break job recipt"<-- $50 diagnostics

today
me: "ATTS light came on this weekend, but went off"
honda service tech: "code is probably reset by now, but i can check for $$$ blab blah... or there is the break job."
me: "have you ever even seen an ATTS unit?"
honda service tech"....uh-huh"
me: "bye"

.... any idea who may be right? me the car enthusiast or the honda service tech? i guess there is always another dealership to go to
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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yeah, something like that happend to my dads van. Turns out that something with the rotors and brake pads and the axle was messed up. it was like that after he went to the dealership just to do a simple oil change. If my dad just even went another hundred miles, the axle would have broken. Just dont go to the dealerships they freaken cheat and are just a bunch of scammers.

Take it to a smaller place, with more honest people. Somewhere more local. Have them check it out. just dont go to another dealership. or should I say stealership? haha..
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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i actually have an extended warranty for 5k more miles so if it is an ATTS or axle it is covered.... the brakes are not.

does the dealership care if i pay them or the warranty pays them? because i thought that if they could have the warranty pay for what might be a big job like, then they would be all over it versus a cheapass break job that i have to fork out.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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I think they had ATTS mixed up with ABS
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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having worked in dealerships as a mechanic myself let me tell you a dealership given the choice between having you pay for something or having the warranty dept pay the dealership will ALWAYS have you pay. they make more money on customer pay jobs. the reason is because on customer pay jobs they are more flexible on the labor time quotes so they always go high. warranty work pays a specific time that must be looked up on a database and its a RIPOFF {for the dealer} like 50% less labor time for the dealer. so trust me they are going to try to make you pay.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Charliegrs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">having worked in dealerships as a mechanic myself let me tell you a dealership given the choice between having you pay for something or having the warranty dept pay the dealership will ALWAYS have you pay. they make more money on customer pay jobs. the reason is because on customer pay jobs they are more flexible on the labor time quotes so they always go high. warranty work pays a specific time that must be looked up on a database and its a RIPOFF {for the dealer} like 50% less labor time for the dealer. so trust me they are going to try to make you pay.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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well i am screwed... come to find out the extended warranty started on the original lease date of the car, not when I purchased it 3 years later, so no warranty. but wait it gets better....

dealer #2 pulls codes and finds:

DTC
62 - oil pressure failure
42 - pgm communication line
79 - ATTS control inhibition

parts/labor = an assfahqing $3800+


95k and ATTS is dead... so anyone gotta a atts unit for sale? base swap? **** i will take a intermediate shaft and a custom bracket at this point
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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I donno. I've corrected the guys at goodyear on more than one occasion. Then again, HT car owners are kinda "specialist" in our cars. Seeing that we spend alot of time learning about our particular model might put us at a small advantage.. One thing to understand, They're not entirely concerned with your car. They're salesmen.. So what they say may not always be true or accurate.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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i agree with that.

that being said, i just picked up the ATTS diff from a local junkyard. got lucky on this with pnly 65k on it. figure if anyone can replace it right, it is me.

ATTS replacement to come
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