Going from Koni Yellow/Neuspeed to Coilovers...questions...
i was thinking of going the coilover route so im able to raise my car in the winter. NYC is harsh when it snows. but my questions are:
1. are coilovers more bouncy than my original setup?
2. are Function and Form coilovers worth the price?
3. is there a place i can go to learn more about spring rates, etc...
im looking for ride comfort and control.
1. are coilovers more bouncy than my original setup?
2. are Function and Form coilovers worth the price?
3. is there a place i can go to learn more about spring rates, etc...
im looking for ride comfort and control.
PICPerformance.com gets my vote for full coilovers.
You should at least check out the website. And yes, coilovers are stiffer, but there's a give and take when it comes to comfort vs. performance/control.
You should at least check out the website. And yes, coilovers are stiffer, but there's a give and take when it comes to comfort vs. performance/control.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Manolo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking of going the coilover route so im able to raise my car in the winter. NYC is harsh when it snows. but my questions are:
1. are coilovers more bouncy than my original setup?
2. are Function and Form coilovers worth the price?
3. is there a place i can go to learn more about spring rates, etc...
im looking for ride comfort and control.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1. NO. Not if you do things correctly. bouncy-ness comes from having dampers that simply can not handle the spring rate that the springs have. The dampers job is to control the springs, but if the valving is incorrect, they wont be able to do that.
2. in performance i would say NO, but if you want bling then your anwser may vary.
3. SEARCH there are tons of topics in this forum and the road race autoX forum for you to learn enough to start your own company
1. are coilovers more bouncy than my original setup?
2. are Function and Form coilovers worth the price?
3. is there a place i can go to learn more about spring rates, etc...
im looking for ride comfort and control.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1. NO. Not if you do things correctly. bouncy-ness comes from having dampers that simply can not handle the spring rate that the springs have. The dampers job is to control the springs, but if the valving is incorrect, they wont be able to do that.
2. in performance i would say NO, but if you want bling then your anwser may vary.
3. SEARCH there are tons of topics in this forum and the road race autoX forum for you to learn enough to start your own company
Just get some ground control spring kit, I wouldn't get rid of Koni Yellows if you have them already. Its already the best shock, just make it adjustable with a GC sleeve coilover meant for the Koni shocks.
heres a daily scenerio for me:
my car is a daily and i live in nyc, roads are ****. when i first got my combo i had the konis on full stiff. i love the control but the comfort is no good, especially when i "have" to hit a dip or big *** bump. now i adjusted them to full soft cause the instructions from koni say you should never really have to siffen them, so the comfort is great but control is very lacking.
i understand if you adjust dampening and stiffness you get greater results and i really think coilovers give me that option. would anybody agree? im really interested in picperformance...
my car is a daily and i live in nyc, roads are ****. when i first got my combo i had the konis on full stiff. i love the control but the comfort is no good, especially when i "have" to hit a dip or big *** bump. now i adjusted them to full soft cause the instructions from koni say you should never really have to siffen them, so the comfort is great but control is very lacking.
i understand if you adjust dampening and stiffness you get greater results and i really think coilovers give me that option. would anybody agree? im really interested in picperformance...
I agree, the roads of NYC are extremely unpleasant to drive on. I spent a good amount of time driving them with our 10k/8k setup in my old Integra. Its just not what coilovers are designed for - at least, not ours.
Adjustable damping can only do so much. I would not look to adjustable damping to solve your harsh-ride woes. Spring rates will play a much more noticeable role in ride quality.
Between performance and ride quality, you'll need to pick one or the other. Although for a street driven car, you won't be needing the performance offered by a coilover. In fact, a decent set of lowering springs will give most people all they want and more for their street cars. The car will sit lower, and handle a little better, without sacrificing the streetability that you want.
Adjustable damping can only do so much. I would not look to adjustable damping to solve your harsh-ride woes. Spring rates will play a much more noticeable role in ride quality.
Between performance and ride quality, you'll need to pick one or the other. Although for a street driven car, you won't be needing the performance offered by a coilover. In fact, a decent set of lowering springs will give most people all they want and more for their street cars. The car will sit lower, and handle a little better, without sacrificing the streetability that you want.
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