I was reading sport compact car for this month. They had a procharger supercharger setup on a gsr. The thing i like about it is . It has a intercooler in the kit, the supercharger is self lubercated. Does anyone on here run one of these. I went on the site last nite and there is no pricing information. If someone is runing one of these could they tell me the power their makin and the price they payed. Thanks in advanced.

 

Think huge turbo that doesn't make full boost until redline. That's what a centrifugal supercharger does...

It's pretty much all the bad qualities of a turbo and sc in one!

 

Okay so say that the procharger kit makes 8psi. I wont hit 8psi untill my redline. Correct right. Okay so is it good that they all combine in to one setup?. Also does anyone on here run one of these on a gsr.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Think huge turbo that doesn't make full boost until redline. That's what a centrifugal supercharger does...

It's pretty much all the bad qualities of a turbo and sc in one! </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha hater

 

One of the things that always seems to be a problem with belt driven superchargers is the belt drive.Even top fuel cars don't have that mastered yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integraftw98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay so say that the procharger kit makes 8psi. I wont hit 8psi untill my redline. Correct right. Okay so is it good that they all combine in to one setup?. Also does anyone on here run one of these on a gsr. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's right, 8psi at redline. At half that rpm, you'll have roughly a quarter of that boost. So at say 4000, you'll have 2psi. With an 8k redline, your turbo should be just about making full boost by 4k. So the average hp is much higher with a turbo, but they will achieve similar peak numbers sometimes.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NJIN BUILDR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One of the things that always seems to be a problem with belt driven superchargers is the belt drive.Even top fuel cars don't have that mastered yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No kidding, better buy some extra belts and hope they're not a total pain in the *** to change like the vortech kit.

 

what's that saying....belts are for pants?

 

a buddy ran a procharger sc on his 97 cobra mustang. blisteringly fast when it ran...consistent 11 and 12 second passes with full interior/spare/in-dash monitor-dvd/subs.

long story short...the kid ended up basically giving the car away in a trade-in because he got sick of changing belts. let me tell you: going 100-120mph and losing power steering/brakes/etc. is flat out effin scary.

 

A very good friend has the same sc on his 2004 mach... He has yet to stretch or break any belts yet(has been going strong for about a year and a half).

they make power in v-8s but not to sure about honda's or 4bangers... i was also looking into that setup and decided it was not for me! gt35r here I come

 

They say 70-75 percent more power gain on a b18c1. Thats with 8psi. I still have no clue on what one will cost. I cant find that anywhere.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pheurton-skeurto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a buddy ran a procharger sc on his 97 cobra mustang. blisteringly fast when it ran...consistent 11 and 12 second passes with full interior/spare/in-dash monitor-dvd/subs.

long story short...the kid ended up basically giving the car away in a trade-in because he got sick of changing belts. let me tell you: going 100-120mph and losing power steering/brakes/etc. is flat out effin scary.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You know how fast your buddy's car would have been with a turbo?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rip94delsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they make power in v-8s but not to sure about honda's or 4bangers... i was also looking into that setup and decided it was not for me! gt35r here I come </TD></TR></TABLE>

They work the same on any motor, V8 or not. A V8 with a nice turbo setup will make way more power than a sc V8. Look into the rules in some of the domestic classes that allow turbos, almost all of them are limited to a smaller motor with turbos becuase they make so much more power.

 

stop feeding them all this mis-informations, TONY !!!!!

hahahaa

supercharger 4TheKill

 

Search Honda-Tech!
Procharger Website


The one (and probably only) plus for this kit is that it can be completely hidden!

 

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You know how fast your buddy's car would have been with a turbo?

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yep

I've owned both a SC and a few turbos and can tell you, don't waste your time on a SC.

 

FMU FTW hahahahaha ;x

 

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You know how fast your buddy's car would have been with a turbo?
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oh definately. i agree completely.

 

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don't waste your time on a SC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why have 8 psi at 8000-8400 rpms with a SC
when you can have 8 psi from 4000-8400 with a turbo

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pheurton-skeurto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let me tell you: going 100-120mph and losing power steering/brakes/etc. is flat out effin scary.</TD></TR></TABLE>since when do you lose brake pressure when you chuck a belt? brakes are vacuum driven, not belt...

but i see your point about the hassle with belts

 

I've tuned an ATI kit on a GSR, and I was not impressed. If I wanted a supercharged Honda, I'd just use the older Jackson Racing kit and if I wanted it intercooled, I'd use the LHT intercooler..

Here is a dyno graph of an ATI kit on a stock GSR motor (dotten lines), vs. a stock K24A2 TSX engine with bolt ons (solid lines)..

 

Yeah, but if you put a boost controller on that SC car it would have made a lot more!!

 

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when you can have 8 psi from 4000-8400 with a turbo

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When you don't jump on a bandwagon, instead basing choice off maps. When can you have 65%+ compressor effeciency from 4000-8400? With larger T3 and nice manifold. When can you have 65% and less from 4000-8400? Run 8psi+ with a roots-style supercharger. I'm glad this thread has tony1 to reinforce this. The reason centripetal SC's are okay on V8s is because V8's tend to have a shitload of torque from idle to midrange, and fall off above - it extends the powerband.

http://www.kennebell.net/techi...l.htm &lt;--- good material

BTW if you want an SC, the best atm is the autorotor.
http://www.kennebell.net/techi...M.pdf

 

Theres some good info here

 

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