oem gsr rear struts
just wondering if anyone has pictures, or knows the difference between the front and rear struts? are the rears the ones that slide over the arm's and bolt in? thanks
Yep, rears have the little fork built on, fronts are just round and have the detachable fork. Also, they are shocks, not struts. Struts have part of the steering components built in....shocks do not.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 integra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, rears have the little fork built on, fronts are just round and have the detachable fork. Also, they are shocks, not struts. Struts have part of the steering components built in....shocks do not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
awesome thanks... i didn't know whether it was shocks or struts, 50/50 chance and i guessed wrong!
awesome thanks... i didn't know whether it was shocks or struts, 50/50 chance and i guessed wrong!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 integra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, rears have the little fork built on, fronts are just round and have the detachable fork. Also, they are shocks, not struts. Struts have part of the steering components built in....shocks do not.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my old Camry had struts in back
McPherson struts all around (junk) 
strut suspensions do not have upper control arms.
my old Camry had struts in back
McPherson struts all around (junk) 
strut suspensions do not have upper control arms.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my old Camry had struts in back
McPherson struts all around (junk) 
strut suspensions do not have upper control arms.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Really, I was unaware that any car ran struts in the rear. Basically you have 2 suspension designs, double wishbone and macpherson strut.....DW uses shocks, the MPS uses struts.....if you need info past that you can look it up and get all kinds of pretty, color-coded diagrams.
my old Camry had struts in back
McPherson struts all around (junk) 
strut suspensions do not have upper control arms.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Really, I was unaware that any car ran struts in the rear. Basically you have 2 suspension designs, double wishbone and macpherson strut.....DW uses shocks, the MPS uses struts.....if you need info past that you can look it up and get all kinds of pretty, color-coded diagrams.
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lots of Toyotas use McPherson struts all around. They have a multi-link rear suspension with 2 lateral rods (in place of Honda's LCA), a trailing rod (instead of Honda's huge rear trailing arm), and the strut, with no upper compensator arm or upper control arm or anything like that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lots of Toyotas use McPherson struts all around. They have a multi-link rear suspension with 2 lateral rods (in place of Honda's LCA), a trailing rod (instead of Honda's huge rear trailing arm), and the strut, with no upper compensator arm or upper control arm or anything like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Interesting, the only toyota stuff I've delt with thus far is the SC300, and Supra stuff, both of which use a double wishbone design like they should.
Interesting, the only toyota stuff I've delt with thus far is the SC300, and Supra stuff, both of which use a double wishbone design like they should.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 integra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really, I was unaware that any car ran struts in the rear. Basically you have 2 suspension designs, double wishbone and macpherson strut.....DW uses shocks, the MPS uses struts.....if you need info past that you can look it up and get all kinds of pretty, color-coded diagrams.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, there are many more than just 2 suspension designs.
Granted, many of the "multi-link" suspension designs can be treated as double wishbone, like the rear of the 92-00 Civic and 94-01 Integra, but the front end of a B5 or B6 Audi cannot. There's 3 balljoints in there, as the 2 upper arms do not merge together like a wishbone. I'm no engineer, but it looks to give variable caster depending on steering input.
Then there's always the good ol' live axle designs. Look at the back on a pickup truck for an example.
The rear of my Triumph Spitfire is a swing arm design. No arms, or structural links really, aside from a single toe link. The axle itself is the suspension arm, with a single CV join as the suspension pivot. A single leaf spring is mounted upsidedown and sideways, with each end connected to the knuckle, and bolted in the center to the diff housing. Camber is entirely determined by ride height, and the shop manual lists -3.75* +- 1* as factory spec for camber, due to the way such designs create massive positive camber on suspension rebound.
There's quite a few more, but I'm off for lunch.
Oh, there are many more than just 2 suspension designs.
Granted, many of the "multi-link" suspension designs can be treated as double wishbone, like the rear of the 92-00 Civic and 94-01 Integra, but the front end of a B5 or B6 Audi cannot. There's 3 balljoints in there, as the 2 upper arms do not merge together like a wishbone. I'm no engineer, but it looks to give variable caster depending on steering input.
Then there's always the good ol' live axle designs. Look at the back on a pickup truck for an example.
The rear of my Triumph Spitfire is a swing arm design. No arms, or structural links really, aside from a single toe link. The axle itself is the suspension arm, with a single CV join as the suspension pivot. A single leaf spring is mounted upsidedown and sideways, with each end connected to the knuckle, and bolted in the center to the diff housing. Camber is entirely determined by ride height, and the shop manual lists -3.75* +- 1* as factory spec for camber, due to the way such designs create massive positive camber on suspension rebound.
There's quite a few more, but I'm off for lunch.
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