HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF GAINING OR LOOSING HP/TRQ BY REMOVING THEM. I REMOVED THEM FROM MY INTAKE AND MY CAR HAS A HARD BOG OFF IDLE. I DONT THINK IT WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM OUT. I THINK ITS IN MY TPS BUT WASNT SURE IF ANYONE ELSE HAD THAT SITUATION. I TOOK THEM OUT BEFORE I GOT THE CAR RUNNING SO I DONT KNOW WHAT THE CAR RAN LIKE BEFORE.

 

well first stop posting in caps


i thought the secondary butterflys were for helping with torque on the low end.......people that race remove them because you gain a bit a of power just before they would open up at the cost of some low end.....but they never need the low end

depends on how hard your bog is

 

well the bog is bad enough to stall out if you floor it off idle. Im 99% sure its the tps. I am goin to adjust my tps and see if that fixes it.

 

I dont think the butterfly removal is too blame. I would look more towards everything else you did to get them out. Any check engine lights? Any vaccuum leaks? Hows your idle?

 

the car idles fine and i cant find any vaccumm leaks. I adjusted my tps today but i need to get my valve cover back so i can start the car.