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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:07 AM
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Hi my name is Khoi and i drive a 2000 civic...I have just sold to my friend my 17 inch Konig Monsoons and they have the universal 4 bolt pattern...My friend has a 97 accord and i was wondering if the wheel locks that were on my car will bolt right up to the accord studs...the reason that i am asking is because this person brought it up to my attention..he said it won't fit...any input or experiences anybody??

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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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Different bolt patterns: 4G & 5G Accords and 4G Preludes have a 4x114.3mm bolt pattern, Civics and Integras have a 4x100mm bolt pattern. Kind of like boys have a *****, girls have a vagina sort of thing.


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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:19 AM
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But they are dual drilled, so bolt pattern don't matter.

As for the wheel locks, yes they will work. Thread pitch on the studs is the same.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:19 AM
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ok...i know the bolt patters are different....im just asking if the civic lugs will bolt up to an accord's lugs....im not that stupid to ask that kind of question about bolt patterns..the civics are 4 lug short..and the accord is 4 lug long...

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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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But they are dual drilled, so bolt pattern don't matter.

As for the wheel locks, yes they will work. Thread pitch on the studs is the same.
Thanks....any other inputs??
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:20 AM
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I didn't realize that there were wheels that had both bolt patterns... I've seen ones with 4/5x114.3 before, but never a 4x100/114.3 design...
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:22 AM
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DunRiet,

Almost all wheels made by companies like Konig, Racing Hart, Axis, etc etc are dual drilled. Not all, but a good deal of them are. My Konig Verdicts, and my Axis Sevens were, but my Konig Blatants are not.


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Oh, and just to prove my point about the wheel locks, I took the verdicts off my 94 Accord and put them on my g/f's 2001 Civic EX. That includes the wheel locks and lug nuts.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:24 AM
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hey big james..i was checking out ur site...how fast does ur accord run with the swap...without the bottle and with the bottle......and ur car is a auto right?

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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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I stand corrected.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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yeah, my car is an auto. I have not run it with the bottle yet. The one time I did run it, the nitrous was not working. It ran a 14.801/97mph. That was it's best time. It was a constant 14.8 all day.

Since then, I have added the VAFC, cam gears, fixed the nitrous, replaced the faulty fuel injectors, and that is about it. It should run a low 12 now. Just kidding.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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thats awesome...i always knew the accord was lighter than the Lude..but i didnt' think it was that much lighter to allow you to break into the 14s especially with an automatic...what are the weight differences in the accord and the lude? The 97-up lude..i mean.

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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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The 97 and up Prelude weighs 3,042lbs. the 94 Accord Sedan LX weighs 2,943 lbs. These figures are from http://www.nadaguides.com

My car was weighed at the track, and with me in it, weighed 3215. I weigh 215, so the car itself is exactly 3000lbs. This extra weight is from the motor, and the small speaker box I have, 1 sub.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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They weigh about the same.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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if both cars weight around the same...how is 14s possible in an automatic...i've seen best runs of 15.5......

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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:56 AM
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That is such an unbelievable general statement! I dont think I have to tell you all the factors involved in drag racing and car tuning.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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if both cars weight around the same...how is 14s possible in an automatic...i've seen best runs of 15.5......

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OK, that was cocky enough I think. LOL..

I can't explain it. One thing about my car though. The reprogrammed ECU allows me to rev to 8,500. While most of the auto Prelude are switching gears at 7400, I am still revving high in the rpms and pulling.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 07:06 AM
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Factors affecting track times: Car weight, modifications, state of tune, chasis setup, chasis regidity, suspension, tires, wheels, unsprung weight, track conditions, what the engine true stock performanc was, drag coeficient, amount of **** in your large intestins, etc, etc., and most importantly, DRIVER.
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Factors affecting track times: Car weight, modifications, state of tune, chasis setup, chasis regidity, suspension, tires, wheels, unsprung weight, track conditions, what the engine true stock performanc was, drag coeficient, amount of **** in your large intestins, etc, etc., and most importantly, DRIVER.
My large and small intestins were well drained. Damned track burgers.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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Make sure you shave before every race.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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Old May 7, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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Make sure you shave before every race.
I'm afriad I can't do that
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