Are these suspensions any good? or would a set of Tein SS or Flex with a EDFC be better?

http://www.ipsracing.com/suspe....html

 

for $2400 you can pretty much get yourself a better setup, double adjustable (rebound/compression) koni 3011 and any spring rate you'd want. I forget who sells the koni 3011/12 and 2812 i think it was prima racing but its not on their website anymore.

 

Reason I like the Toda is cause it's got dual springs the smaller helper spring. the ride on it is really nice and smooth over single spring. I like the Tein cause of the EDFC, cause i know i'm lazy to go and adjust them out of the car.

 

The helper spring is just there to keep the spring in posistion when at full droop--when the suspension becomes unloaded. You can buy those for the Koni as well but are uneeded if you ahve the shocks shortened to the correct length for your application.

so you like these because they look cooler not because they necessarily perform better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The helper spring is just there to keep the spring in posistion when at full droop--when the suspension becomes unloaded. You can buy those for the Koni as well but are uneeded if you ahve the shocks shortened to the correct length for your application.

so you like these because they look cooler not because they necessarily perform better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've driven a friend's car that had an old Apexi suspension that had the dual spring. It handled reall nice and wasn't bouncy/stiff like other suspensions. It felt like the helper spring was a softer spring and the top spring was a stiffer one. The way it handle and ride was really nice not like any other suspension setup i've rode in (Basic & SS Tein, Tokico White & Blue, Koni yellow with eibach springs, KYB AGX w/Tein S-Tech, Buddy Club, Zeal). The only suspension that was comparable to it was a Tein HA i believe was the model name on a R34.

 

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I've driven a friend's car that had an old Apexi suspension that had the dual spring. It handled reall nice and wasn't bouncy/stiff like other suspensions. It felt like the helper spring was a softer spring and the top spring was a stiffer one. The way it handle and ride was really nice not like any other suspension setup i've rode in (Basic & SS Tein, Tokico White & Blue, Koni yellow with eibach springs, KYB AGX w/Tein S-Tech, Buddy Club, Zeal). The only suspension that was comparable to it was a Tein HA i believe was the model name on a R34.</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol no dude helper spring does almost nothing.

 

any1 ever owned a set before?

 

You're thinking of a tender spring, which these coilovers do not have.

Whether or not they will produce the nice handling and smooth ride you are talking about is debateable and I don't think you are going to find many (if any) reviews for them on here to confirm it either way.

Simply looking at the spring rates for your application (I'm guessing a Civic/Integra) will show that you're comparing two very different sets of coilovers. Why are you cross-shopping these two? edit: i can see how that can be misinterpreted; i'm not here to sell anything, I'm just curious how you end up shopping two coilovers with very different rates.

 

i'm mainly interested in the Toda's Fightex, but I can get the Tein SS (MSRP $1000) for $700 from a local shop. I haven't rode the Toda's before but I know the Apexi one with dual spring helps it alot. I see that Tein also has the twin spring setup now. It's suppose to soften the ride up.

 

There is a difference between helper and tender springs. None of the 3 sets you are referring to use a tender spring, they use helper's. While helper springs will change the overall spring rate, they will not noticeably affect ride quality, and they will not soften the ride.

The main spring rate is going to matter a lot more to the overall ride quality than a tender spring. You should be looking at the spring rates instead of which ones have helper springs and which ones don't to make your decision.

 

looks like the Toda has a really low spring rate compared to the other two

 

User Flux has Toda Fightex suspension, not sure which model though. PM him or something.

 

if you want a comfortable ride, why dont find some tokico illuminas mated to some spring with a progressive rate. thats going to be as comfortable as you can get, aside from stock.

there is fast, cheap, and reliable
choose only two.

 

check out this website http://www.modacar.com/ and pick the car you have and look at there suspension packages they some pretty good deals.