What do you guys think is better from experinece for everyday driving and comfortable ride shock/spring combo or coilovers. and what do you guys think of tein springs?

 

That would depend entirely on what springs, shocks, and coilovers you are talking about.

 

IM talking in general like lets just say that you bought a better coilover like tein is it reall comforable ride for everyday driving. What do you guys think which one is better for comfortable riding?

 

i kinda have the same question for my 4dr eg
i want a better feel but i dont want it hard on my dd
would springs do the trick or is it a cheap fix for the real thing

i heard springs ny themselves wear your oem shocks fast

 

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It depends on how much money you are willing to spend, how low you want your car, and its use (track, daily). Answer those questions first

 

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Some people just want an answer (even if incorrect) more than they want to take the time to learn anything and do it right.

Without alot more information, the only correct answer is the stock suspension is best for a daily driver. Period. Anything else is either for looks (costing ride quality) or for performance (costing ride quality).

 

well i would like a 1 -1.5 drop.
along with a little more solid feel
money?? ill do whatever seems best for me

and im only asking for opinions,
suspension isnt black and white it's all opinion based on experience

 

If you want that drop, then some tein s-tech springs for $140 should do the trick followed by an alignment.

 

i want drop plus a sportier feel
springs do both?

and i still heard springs on stock shocks ruin them

 

Yeah thats true if you buy springs you should get also shocks for it cause stock can last long but just depends on time its better if you buy both, but i think when you buy both you can just save a little bit more money and buy good stuff coilover setup. I think ill just save money for the good stuff coilovers i hope they have a comfotabel ride?

 

if you're gonna get springs better get shocks too. im in the market also and would not even consider springs with no upgraded shocks.

 

tein s-techs + koni reds are on my car right now, just installed last saturday. Ride is a little stiffer, a little lower (1.5"), and all around nice for a daily so far. I have yet to install my weksos itr rear sway/asr subframe brace, but when that comes it'll be even better.

 

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exactly the answer im looking for.
anyone else?

 

Started with a H&R race springs and KYB AGX
adjustible struts and was not that happy. Just
installed Tein basic coilovers on my 95 Integra
and the change is much improved.

 

kartman, you're just running springs with oem struts?

 

im looknig at koni reds or tokico blues
tien looks like the only good springs

 

is there a difference between coilover + spring?

 

Kartman's response said he went from a spring shock combo to basic CO's. Not just springs with OEM shock.

 

so.. coilovers are meant to go with oem struts

 

Im not sure whats what he said I dont thing oem struts go with coilovers.

 

Kartman said he had a spring shock combo and you do not want to run coilovers with stock shocks. If you look around I'm sure you can find a deal for some decent coilovers. If your not tracking the car, there's no need to spend $$$$ on some expensive brand. Go with ksport or function form or omni. all good brands with good reviews, and search is your friend. It helped me!

 

Okay, let's make this clear Kartman had a Spring and Adjustable shock combo first. (Full replacement of stock pieces).

THEN he decided to change out to Tien Basic Coilover's, which is a complete spring w/threaded body shock. Which means he REPLACED his spring/shock combo.

He is not using OEM with coilovers. There are coilover SLEEVES from Skunk 2 and Ground contro that you can use with OEM struts (shocks) or with aftermarket shocks (struts) like Koni, Bilstein, Tokico, etc. These are actually pretty good for the money in the right combination like many of the RR/AutoX guys swear by the Koni/Ground Control setup.

 

first of all, the terminology is often misused. a "coilover" by definition, is a spring installed over/around a shock or strut body. by definition, the OEM setup is a "coilover" setup. some cars have the spring installed in a seperate location than the shock or strut (see E36 BMWs for example).

However, many car enthusiasts use the term "coilover" to describe a complete spring and shock setup that comes preassembled, is adjustable in height, and is installed as one complete system. This is the more common use of the term.

Anyway, a mild lowering spring can be used on stock shocks if a) they aren't too stiff, and b) they aren't too low. Although, it will still be better to upgrade the shocks. For example, neuspeed offers a softsport spring that is .75" lower than stock, and only mildy stiffer. you should be able to use these with stock shocks just fine, as long as the shocks are in good condition.

some good entry level performance shocks are Koni reds, tokiko hps. the reds can be adjusted before you install them too. These types of shocks are good for a mild lowering spring on a daily driven car.

better performance shocks are koni yellows, tokiko illuminas, bilsteins.. usually they are rebound adjustable, and offer higher damping rates for stiffer lowering springs, like H&Rs and neuspeed race springs.

complete coilover setups, like tein, megan, PIC, omni, etc. come in many different flavors. entry level setups like the tein basics usually don't have adjustable dampers, and typically come with spring rates a bit softer than the higher end stuff.. Although the spring rates on these setups are still usually stiffer than most aftermarket lowering springs.

more expensive coilover systems get you adjustable dampers and stiffer springs. for a daily driver, you probably don't need the adjustability, and probably don't want the stiffer springs though.

Also pairing a good set of springs and a good set of shocks can be just as effective, if not better, than a full adjustable coilover setup.

and something like a ground control sleeve and spring combo can be used with any aftermarket shock for your car, and they allow you to fine tune your spring rates by offereing many different rates and lengths.


for my daily driver, I settled on some H&R springs paired with the neuspeed version of the koni yellow shocks with 5 height adjustments. the ride is firm (but not too jarring), and IMO, much better than a packaged coilover system I could have purchased for the same amount of money.

 

That is so true what you said. Thats why im really thinking twice if I should get lowering springs with shocks or coilovers because im not going autocrossing i'll go over the summer couple of times to drag strip, but mostly itll be daily driving. Still have to decide becaus ethis height right now is really pssing me off i dont like it at all.