Trying to get some help deciding what I should do. I had a wreck totaled my car. Insurance is giving me 5800 and the car. So now I have a H22 Complete Swap. Also have and extra H22A4 Head with 30k that I was going to build but not anymore. So I'm getting an Si with an H23. Now heres what I can't decide. Should I build the h22 all motor with type s pistons and put it in the car and build an H23 Vtec T3/T4 or Should I slap my vtec head on there and make an H23 vtec with stock internals then build my H22 for turbo with eagle h-beams and mahle pistons. Hard decision what do you guys think.

 

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i would drive the h23 just how it is build the h22 and if you want stroke it using the crower stroker kit when you rebuild it and put the turbo on it

 

I like to rev it high though and with a stroker kit your not supposed to rev as high. Plus I have a extra h22 head that I'm not doing anything with.

 

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I'd say your confusing this too much. If you already have an H23 which is better suited for a turbo to begin with and you plan on turboing you have no need for VTEC. In fact that will only make things more complicated. Now if you want to go all motor then your going to need VTEC in which case I would agree with a full swap or some sort of hybrid. So basically I'd say the question is what do you want to do? Turbo or all motor?

 

There is a differance of 45 hp between a h23 t3/t4 and h23 vtec t3/t4 and with vtec I will be able to rev to a higher RPM which is good because with a t3/t4 turbo it takes a while to spool.

 

Again what difference is 45 hp when you have a turbo. Your main concern before your turbo spools should be torque which they both have the same and the H23 is actually better at providing at the begining of first gear. Also you won't be reving higher if you do a hybrid with your H23 crank so that point really isn't valid unless you do the complete H22 swap.

 

Also I want an all motor car for the time being until I save enough for the turbo and all the compenents

 

I don't know if your h23 bottom end will take the higher revving plus the pressure of boost.

 

it will have mahle pistons and eagle h-beams there guy here that has it in his civic and he has been running it for 3 months now without any problems at 9 pounds. the blocks are the same there just stamped different and the h23 has a longer stroke.

 

Your crank isn't gonna be balanced like the h22's and you're not going to have oil squirters.

 

Alright well 3 months is a short time to be sure of anything. Your weakness will still be your crank if you plan to rev to H22 spec. If you have a complete H22 why not just do a full swap and just boost that then. To me it seems like your making yourself take a unnessacary step. You have my advice, do with it as you will.

 

i don't know why you want to dump money into a h23vtec that you can use on the h22 turbo. why not just use that money and buy a turbo kit for the h23 and just swap manifolds when you done building your h22

 

It won't be balenced as good but it will still be able to rev high and h23's do have oil squirters. Its a plug and play I just change the head and wire it up for vtec

 

you also have to change the timing components... h23 and h22 have different amount of teeth. I'm pretty sure the h23 does not have oil squirters. And the big deal is that because the h23 crank isn't balanced and there aren't oil squirters; you will bust your bottom end if you are rev happy. The h23 doesn't exactly have the best r/s ratio to rev that high.. it wasn't designd to

 

U use a H22 Water pump and timing belt and the guy that has h23 vtec t3/t4 turbo works at a performance shop in huntsville, Al called trackmasters he said they did have oil squirters. i don't like to rev real high just to around 7,800.

 

Anyone else have input

 

I did the H23vtec. IMO, you would be better off going with the boosted H23 or the built H22. Sell the setup you don't use.

 

Did you not like it or did it break what was your experience.

 

No, I've been on it about 18 months now. There's nothing wrong with it in itself, but I would have had a lot better gains had I gone turbo. I don't really lay into it very much either since it's my DD. I just feel that it would have been a lot simpler to just stick with on or the other. At the time, this was a second car and I just did the H23vtec to have something a bit more unique.

 

Thats why I want an H23 vtec turbo car because its unique

 

Then go for it. Nothing wrong with doing what you want. I was just giving my opinion.

Best of luck and post results!

 

Thanks for tha posy I'm not really worried about messing anything up right now I have two motor an h22 and h23 then I also have another head so if I blow one up I'll just put the other in. Thanks for the input.