im going to be blunt...im a picky little bitch and i dont want my car to be tacky due to having a million different colors all over it. with that being said i need suspension that will match (as much as possible) the color scheme of my car.

i came across these, http://www.f2autolife.com/stor...id=50 ,but i dont know anything about the company/quality. they have a 1 year warranty, same as d2 if im not mistaken, which is "promissing" i guess. on top of that pricing is competitive with what ive seen of d2. if anyone has any reviews from your own personal experience with products from this company then please share. if you know someone who has these then please share a review. im really not looking for "they are crap" coming down the line from someone who you have never talked to, that only likes a certain brand or something similarly ignorant. anyways someone please let me know something because im looking to buy a set up soon. thanks

 

no one?

 

honestly if you're choosing suspension based on color you may be going down the wrong road man.
You can always paint what you don't like if you're really that picky.
Buy something good or you will regret it.

 

i'd recommend koni/gc since they are quite reputable, but that's from reviews i've heard/read from other people, who must be ignorant because they don't choose their suspension based on color they are more concerned with quality and performance

choosing suspension parts based on color

 

i'd recommend painting your car yellow

 

im probably going to go with PIC...i got directed toward them on another thread and they seem to know what they are talking about, and also give enough of a **** about their customers to respond with more than a 1 sentence email.

and no thanks on koni and gc. sleeves are crap. i prefer a setup that was made to fit as opposed to what everyone pieces together. i have agx's and gc's on my accord, and though it does ride decent, there is hardly the performance im looking for in a car used mostly for drag racing.

im not stupid/picky enough to only buy a product because its the color i want, hence why i bothered asking if anyone had used it before i made a purchase. i was going with d2's but the highly visible purple is just not doing it for me at all. like i said PIC's are more than likely what i am getting because the color doesnt stick out to the point of being tacky, and ive heard nothing but good reviews on them, and they answered all of my questions with very lengthy responses.

 

How does a threaded sleeve function any different then a threaded shock body? They don't; they both allow height adjustment. Then you choose the spring rate you'd need for your given application and use of springs and make sure to choose a damper with appropiate valving to properly control the springs. When you think about it when it comes to suspension, everything is 'pieced together'-- its just a matter of do you understand what you want out of your suspension and are you going to choose the correct components to do so or are you going to buy something that someone else picked out.

Saying 'sleeves are crap' is a blind and ignorant statement. Ground Control makes height-adjustment sleeves that are specifically 'made-to-fit' koni shocks. Eibach, a company in the top three of spring makers in the world, produces the springs used on ground controls (as well as many other spring applications out there including OE apps). Koni, a leader in shocks, makes damn fine dampers. If the agx/gc combination you used previously was 'hardly the performance your looking for...' then you either didn't have the correct damping/valving or chose the incorrect spring rates for your performance needs. The universal GC are not, to the best of my knowledge, purpose designed to fit agx's and the agx's dont have any sort of impressive damping/valving to control any realistic performance spring rates. I myself am running SPSS3 race-valved konis with 450F and 400R and the ride is very nice. I am going to up the spring rate some more to suit my needs.

 

ok well how about this then...I PERSONALLY dont like sleeves. this is why i hate honda-tech...you cant ask for feedback on one product (or anything else) without getting side tracked and pretty much belittled. ok, everyone in the world <3's gc and koni...i bought agx and gc for height adjustability and ride comfort. i have no clue what spring rate i have, whatever comes as default i suppose. there were no spring rates specified. as for stiffness levels, im running 2 in the front and 5 in the rear. i was running 2 and 4 but the ride was shitty, 5 made a huge difference. its not a bad setup, otherwise it wouldnt still be on my car, but its a daily driver so it sees wear and tear and of course its not going to be as performance oriented as i desire. im building a car for something entirely different and want a setup that is way better than what i have on my dd right now. koni and gc may be super sweet together, but i dont think it is what im looking for. its not going to be an auto x or circuit car. PIC has directed me on what i need and am looking for so i will most likley be going with them. although my original question wasnt answered i have been led in what i feel is the right direction, no need for any more comments unless it pertains to f2 (the company form/function, its not supposed to be d2) or PIC coilovers.

 

Sounds like you want looks over performance, so yeah, just go with whatever matches your car.

 

Just paint what you have.

 

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you didnt get it....i want both....there is such a thing. and like i said...quite a few times...im going with PIC....jeez.

 

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you didnt get it....i want both....there is such a thing. and like i said...quite a few times...im going with PIC....jeez.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No there isn't. 99% of the people that want performance, dont give a **** what color their suspension is.

And if you already decided what you are using, why did you ask?

 

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No there isn't. 99% of the people that want performance, dont give a **** what color their suspension is.

And if you already decided what you are using, why did you ask?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well then consider me the 1% of mother ******* who gives a **** what their car looks like while performing with high standards as well...jewsus christ. i decided after i posted...but being the open minded person i am, im still trying to get a review so i can have more than one option just in case. im not building a sleeper, but im not some ****** whos going all show. if i put enough effort and time into my car to make it look nice as well as be reliably quick, then why not go all out and keep with the same plan throughout the build....why is that such a problem and a difficult concept for some people to grasp. maybe bright *** purple struts and lca's are a dead give away that you have d2's....a theif says...nice d2's, from 50 feet away due to the bright *** definitive color, making my car a target...no thanks. painting parts under warranty may void the warranty...dont know and i dont care to find out the hard way. people on this board give each other way too much ****, just give me a damn review or stfu!

 

AMEN! In the time ******** take to flame or say some ignorant ****, they might as well have answer the original question of the thread...

I dont have the f2 coilovers, but im very interested in how good they are and i might even pick up a pair if there are good enough reviews, but from the looks of it there arent gonna be any decent reviews cuz every1 would rather flame than help out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LiL_Shaun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AMEN! In the time ******** take to flame or say some ignorant ****, they might as well have answer the original question of the thread...

I dont have the f2 coilovers, but im very interested in how good they are and i might even pick up a pair if there are good enough reviews, but from the looks of it there arent gonna be any decent reviews cuz every1 would rather flame than help out</TD></TR></TABLE>

i havent really looked anywhere else. i dont really know what i was thinking when i came here for a review either...to no surprise a wave of flamers swarmed my thread instead of actually trying to help out. im seriously to the point of not coming back to this site due to never being able to get an answer out of anyone. moderators need to step their game up and make/enforce rules on posting useless **** in someones thread, either no one would post here anymore, and/or the site would go under...so i can see why they dont. seriously you people need to get a hobby. half of these *****'s dont even know what the hell they are talking about, like i said, opinions are given to these dipshits and then passed on to others. whats this, a new product on the market, just stick to konis and gc, cus nothing better will ever come out ever....screw this.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LiL_Shaun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AMEN! In the time ******** take to flame or say some ignorant ****, they might as well have answer the original question of the thread...

I dont have the f2 coilovers, but im very interested in how good they are and i might even pick up a pair if there are good enough reviews, but from the looks of it there arent gonna be any decent reviews cuz every1 would rather flame than help out</TD></TR></TABLE>

In the time it took both of you dumb mother ***** to post these whiny posts about people not understanding you could have searched and found out the answers.

Like this dipshit, under "Recent Content" for this forum alone:
Your search for function form returned 10 results

Under Archived Content:
Your search for function form returned 9 results


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by og_hatch_90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i havent really looked anywhere else. i dont really know what i was thinking when i came here for a review either...to no surprise a wave of flamers swarmed my thread instead of actually trying to help out. im seriously to the point of not coming back to this site due to never being able to get an answer out of anyone. moderators need to step their game up and make/enforce rules on posting useless **** in someones thread, either no one would post here anymore, and/or the site would go under...so i can see why they dont. seriously you people need to get a hobby. half of these *****'s dont even know what the hell they are talking about, like i said, opinions are given to these dipshits and then passed on to others. whats this, a new product on the market, just stick to konis and gc, cus nothing better will ever come out ever....screw this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Listen up dumbass. The moderators should ban your stupid *** for not following the rules by ignoring teh big red SEARCH up on the top of the page. Nobody cares if you leave. See ya.

 

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Like this dipshit, under "Recent Content" for this forum alone:
Your search for function form returned 10 results

Under Archived Content:
Your search for function form returned 9 results


Listen up dumbass. The moderators should ban your stupid *** for not following the rules by ignoring teh big red SEARCH up on the top of the page. Nobody cares if you leave. See ya. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah and in all of those there is at least one person flaming it up im sure. everytime i have tried to search anything on this site it takes hours to find anything relivant (if at all), so i figured i wouldnt waste my time. there is no use in jacking up your post count by inserting useless information when someone asks a question. im not bored enough to filter through pages and pages of **** to find something when i can post and maybe get the answer im looking for...you on the other hand, are obviously bored enough to put your two cents in when it doesnt have **** to do with what i asked. i admit that i didnt search...big ******* deal, youre still a flamer and part of the reason behind why this site blows so much ***.

 

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In the time it took both of you dumb mother ***** to post these whiny posts about people not understanding you could have searched and found out the answers.

Like this dipshit, under "Recent Content" for this forum alone:
Your search for function form returned 10 results

Under Archived Content:
Your search for function form returned 9 results

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Ok alright....now that you find 10 results why dont u fukin look into the thread and find a decent review other than the ones saying "oh well they ride smooth..." that isnt a good enough review, at least for me anyways

your such a dumb ****....any1 could be like "search you dumbass, theres a billion topics on this" and post up search results saying you found 1000000000 threads on it, when only 1 of them are remotely relevant to the actual question

are you lookin for ground control spring info? type it in you noob theres like 100 threads on this subject

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Your search for ground control springs returned 84 results.
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now you look through that 84 threads and tell me outta all 84 how many are a decent review of gc's


and the reason i stay on this site is because there IS alot of info about alot of the products from those who are nice enough to post up actual helpful info instead of just flame n talk ****...but in this case once a new product comes out theres automatically 10000 threads on the product, all of them detailed reviews, experiences, pictures of installation, and one ****** ready to tell some1 else to search on the topic because its been covered a billion times just to **** people off

**i dont hate honda-tech...i just hate the people who bring this site to ******

 

Don't sweat it too much, wherever you go there will be those who are willing to help and those who aren't, and people have good days and bad days. With a new product in a competitive market, you'd be hardpressed to find many people who have the ***** to stand up and say "I support this product" or even offer an opinion for fear of the majority getting all over their case about it like what happens here a lot.

I wish I could help you out but we can't force people to talk, and you don't need a review from me. If you're still on the fence about it, you're best bet is to dig around the books and the internet some more and see if you can figure out the answers to some of your questions on your own, knowing that you're not going to be able find an answer to a subjective question like "how's the ride quality going to be?". Things like quality of components, quality of construction and proven performance are common to any good product, so maybe start there.

 

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yeah and in all of those there is at least one person flaming it up im sure. everytime i have tried to search anything on this site it takes hours to find anything relivant (if at all), so i figured i wouldnt waste my time. there is no use in jacking up your post count by inserting useless information when someone asks a question. im not bored enough to filter through pages and pages of **** to find something when i can post and maybe get the answer im looking for...you on the other hand, are obviously bored enough to put your two cents in when it doesnt have **** to do with what i asked. i admit that i didnt search...big ******* deal, youre still a flamer and part of the reason behind why this site blows so much ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought you left, why are you still posting?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LiL_Shaun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and the reason i stay on this site is because there IS alot of info about alot of the products from those who are nice enough to post up actual helpful info instead of just flame n talk ****...but in this case once a new product comes out theres automatically 10000 threads on the product, all of them detailed reviews, experiences, pictures of installation, and one ****** ready to tell some1 else to search on the topic because its been covered a billion times just to **** people off </TD></TR></TABLE>

There's lots of info here and there are lots of people who are willing to give good info, but F2 isn't a "new product" they've been a around a while and if you did any searching you'd see that they're the same run-of-the-mill Taiwan made coilovers as many others. Pick the color you want and go with it, or look into why people who know what they're talking about recommend something else. Don't ask about something then get pissed off if the answer isn't waht you expected. IMO the F2, D2, Omni, etc are all crap and I would't spend the money on them. Does that make me a hater or a Koni/GC bandwagoner? I guess so.

So here's some more help. Look at the shock dyno thread (it's sticky) and see the difference between Koni and D2s.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1104049

For my next car I will most likely stick with the tested and proven Koni/GC, or I may even venture over to PIC for their adjustable shock setup.

 

I have a review of PIC Performance Coilovers coming up real soon. Be patient.

 

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I thought you left, why are you still posting?

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im not leaving the site because half of the people that post are flammers. its their own problem that they dont have anything relivant to say, its just pretty damn annoying when it happens in every thread.

im not looking for a review on how f2's, or any suspension for that matter, "rides". im not going for ride quality, im going for performance. i spoke with PIC and they explained that i could just go with a 10/18 combo but it would be dangerous for highway driving, so im probably gonna go with either 10/14 or 12/14 through them. i dont wanna half *** my suspension on this car. i was looking for a review on how the f2 suspension performed and through searching i still didnt get an answer, so me starting a new thread wasnt a total waste. everyone that posted a review has the f2's on their daily driver which is a waste of money IMO. i got my agx/gc set up for at least $200-$300 less then what f2's and similar set ups run. if f2's and d2's are pretty much the same then i would have bought the f2's had i not discovered PIC. im building a 2.2 liter crvtec turbo motor that is going to be pushing around 550+whp and honestly i dont trust a koni/gc setup to withstand it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by og_hatch_90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im building a 2.2 liter crvtec turbo motor that is going to be pushing around 550+whp and honestly i dont trust a koni/gc setup to withstand it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL. OK man whatever you say. Koni/GC can't handle your 500 hp monster.

 

did i say my car was going to be the fastest street legal honda EVAR!!!....no...i just dont trust koni and gc....you have fun with all that ****, its not for me.

 

uhhhggggg.


Not one single part will fail on the koni/GC setup. Im pretty positive, that Eibach, Ground Control, and Koni could all be apart of the 6 sigma program for quality, if they are not already.


The majority of people that post (with any knowledge) in this forum, are concerned with one thing, performance. So when you come in here talking about color being a deciding factor in you buying a performance item its laughable.

Go post this in the apperance cosmetic forum or some other place and im sure you will get more responses along the lines you were looking for.