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Did 91 ex master cyl swap and brakes now feel worse

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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Default Did 91 ex master cyl swap and brakes now feel worse

So, my master cyl finally went bad and decided to get the larger bolt on from the 91 ex. so after bench bleeding, and bleeding all of the air out of the system...i drove around and now my braking feels weaker...ill push it down as far as i can and its far less aggressive than it used to be...this is a 92 civic with 95 integra 4wdb conversion and axxis metal master front and rear pads...any idea of what could be wrong guys?
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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nm, i was thinking backwards
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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if you bench bled the mc and bled at each corner correctly. are you sure the mc you have isn't junk also.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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its a new one...or remanufactured
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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i forgot to mention...brake pedal pressure DID increase and there was less slack in the pedal...its just even at full braking the car doesnt slow as fast...braking isnt as aggressive as it once was
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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anybody?

update- i rebled the system today...and got new and better pads...braking feels better but still not as good as it should be...should i just go back to my stock one?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Do you have a 40/40 PP? or using your stock one? Also how exactly does the pressure feel? Soft at the top then you feel a pressure on the bottom and it brakes good, no pressure at all, stiff as hell pressure with no stopping, other (explain)?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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no 4040 valve...it wouldnt make much of a difference since stock is 3030...anyways there IS pressure...a bit more than before with less slack...but u know how when you push the brake as far down as u can it comes to a point and stops...well with my previous brake master it would feel as if the further i pushed to that point the more braking i had...but now its like i hit that point and the braking power isnt nearly as good as it was...like ill press the pedal down to the stopping point...and the braking feels like 2/3-3/4 pedal depression with the previous master
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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So your saying the peddle isnt going as far down as your old one went? Thats normal, if you get a 40/40 itll level itself out.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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yes...why would a different proportioning valve made a difference? it just proportions how much fluid goes front biased to rear...4040 should be the same as 3030
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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PP allows the fluid to travel to a certain extent. A 3030 will flow less then a 4040 would. You have a stiffer peddle because you upgraded to a bigger MC (11/16 (?) to 15/16).
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