Well my sol's old yokohama avs es100's have been on the wear bar for quite some time now, and very soon it will be time to replace them. I've got it narrowed down now to two choices. Either another set of yokos like ive got now in the same size (205/45R16) Or some Falken Azenis RT-615s in 215/45R16. http://www.discounttire.com/dt...ALHZA
I've got 16x7 inch rims, so I shouldnt have any problems running a 215 tire should I? I've read reviews for both, and Im really leaning towards the Falkens, just becuase people say they handle much better, and I would just like to try another set of tires. My only hope is they dont wear out faster than the yokes, but if the grip is exceptional I might not care. Any input on either tire, or suggestions would be appreciated.

 

anyone have anything to add?

 

maybe you would get a better response here. Never the less this belongs in the Wheel/Tire section.

But for your questions I use Kuhmo Escta 711s. Traction 360, Temp A, Traction AA, good water traction. Good tires for year 'round Socal Weather.

 

oh yeah, forgot to mention about your link...

I hear nothing but good things about those tires, especially on the track.

But with that treadware, for daily driven, you'll be replacing them rather quickly. And with about ~$150/tire mounted & balanced that's a little more than i'd like to spend on rubber.

 

well i just got 2 yoko es100's in 205/50/15's and man what a difference compared to my old falken ziex's...you should go check out the kuhmo spt's? i've heard alot of good stuff about them and most people whos had them say they handle slightly better in the rain than the es100s and handle the same in the dry...best part is the spt's cost about $20 bucks less than the es100's...though the ratings do say the spt's are the better choice i'd stick with yoko tires, just becuz i like there quality of tires. one other thing is if you get the RT's, you'll be buying a new set of tires after 2 months or so...maybe even less...i'd say go with something else thats going to last, unless you've got the money for it...

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1794599

 

****, theres already one in the wheels and tires section. I just wanted to see what the people in the sol section thought.

 

Falken Azenis RT-615s in 215/45R16

 

ES 100's wear for ****. I'd get the Azenis and they are stickier as well.

 

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Not true. The ES100 lasts about three times as long as the Falken Azenis RT-615. Typical treadlife is 25-35K or more for the ES100, 10-12K for the Azenis. We got over 40K on our last set of ES100 (on our '94 GS-R) and they still weren't worn down to the treadwear indicator bars.

Incidentally, the Azenis wears fast, partly because its compound is so soft, but also because it doesn't have as much tread depth as most other street tires. For example, the Yokohama ES100 comes with tread depth of 10/32" when new, whereas the Azenis comes with 8/32".

 

I've had a set of both and the ES100's wore out faster than the Azenis and they aren't even as sticky. I tracked both of them.
I got 10K miles with the Azenis with a couple track days and 7-9 autocrosses.
If this isn't the case then the ES100's get eaten up on track days.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dvp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've had a set of both and the ES100's wore out faster than the Azenis and they aren't even as sticky. I tracked both of them.
I got 10K miles with the Azenis with a couple track days and 7-9 autocrosses.
If this isn't the case then the ES100's get eaten up on track days.</TD></TR></TABLE>

With mostly street use, even with an occasional track day, the ES100 will last about three times as long as the Azenis. It's possible that the ES100 wears faster on the racetrack; I haven't used mine there, and I don't think many people get the ES100 for track use.

The Azenis is indeed stickier than the ES100 on dry pavement. In rain, though, the ES100 grips much better than the Azenis.

The Azenis is a great choice for those who use their street tires on the track or autocross, and who care only about performance in dry conditions and don't mind replacing them frequently. The ES100 (along with competing tires like the Kumho SPT) is a better choice for those who also care about treadlife and/or rain performance, such as those using it for daily driving.

 

Azenis RT-615s in 215/45R16

 

Regardless, I did not like them because of the wear factor. They were only moderately stickier than the Parada. There are much better tires out there for the same price. I don't see any reason to buy the ES 100's again.

 

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That's like saying that Albert Pujols is only a moderately better hitter than Chris Carpenter.

 

Sorry I don't watch softball.

 

i got 15000 miles out of es 100 and 15000 miles out of the 615...never used on the track just street driven to and from work and to play....would never buy the es 100 again either

 

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That's REALLY unusual. Everyone I know who has used the ES100 and has driven them down to the treadwear bars has gotten at least 30,000 miles on them, and some folks (including me) have gotten over 40K.