i heard that these are pretty decnt cams and upgrade over stock but on some web

sites it doesnt say anything about upgrading the valve spings and retainers. so for

the buddy club spec III is it requiered to have upgraded valve train or would my

stock jdm b16a be ok with just bolting on these cams?

 

bc3 are good with stock valvetrain, but if you goin wit bc4 that when you upgrade your valvetrain.

 

thats kool so i can just bolt those right on no valve train mods

 

I have these cams. I would suggest upgrading the valve train at least to type r spec. These are a bit higher lift than the type r cams. I upgraded to omni power springs and retainers.

 

yeah i just got the spec III+ and i also got some rocket motorsport valve springs, but im going to retain factory retainers since they last longer than titanium ones

 

hey post up thread bout bc3 and tell us bout them, the difference ok. if you can feel the vtec kick in

 

i would put springs and retainers on any aftermarket cam being there is more lift and duration then stock...i have bc4's wit all bc valvetrain

 

and i garentee that your retainer wont last past 10kkk thats why people dont buy retainers taht often unless it is super necessary

 

how does your head package perform since upgrade bc4

 

just started car 2days ago but idles good ima get back to you guyz as soon as im done breakin it in and then ill take the rev limit up to 9500 should make some good power my friend has the same set-up but with 10.1 je pistons and 100shot of NX nitrous and he ran 11.2 on gforces so im goin all mota so im hoping for mid 12 wit 22" slicks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16FlatBack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just started car 2days ago but idles good ima get back to you guyz as soon as im done breakin it in and then ill take the rev limit up to 9500 should make some good power my friend has the same set-up but with 10.1 je pistons and 100shot of NX nitrous and he ran 11.2 on gforces so im goin all mota so im hoping for mid 12 wit 22" slicks</TD></TR></TABLE>
on what block and what mods ?

 

are these cams worth the money. i can get a set right now for 325 so im wondering if i should get it.. how much more power would i be looking at when all i have is what i listed and aem pulleys.. thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pchan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are these cams worth the money. i can get a set right now for 325 so im wondering if i should get it.. how much more power would i be looking at when all i have is what i listed and aem pulleys.. thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah for that price pick them up becuase they make good amount of usable power through out the rpm range and have stock idle characteristics. and u can use them on stock or upgraded vavle train

 

That's a good price for decent cams. If you do a little bit of searching, you can find some dyno graphs of them.

 

cool thanks? what kind of power should i expect from em?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1736775

For a B16^^^

 

upgrade springs and retainers or not??? stunned debating over it.. so much info here of not to do it and to do it... lol

 

If you're going to try and rev to 9500, then GET THE VALVETRAIN!

 

is the $300-400 you save from not buying valvetrain going to be worth it if you blow your engine?

 

 

if you guys are goin to use those cams and rev up pass 9k you might to upgrade bottomend to arp rod bolts on ur stock rods. if you are using stock rods with stock rod bolt you might damage your motor.

 

how would these do in an lsvtec?

 

This thread is making my head hurt.

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https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch


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Put it on a dyno and find out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kantfadedisazn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and i garentee that your retainer wont last past 10kkk thats why people dont buy retainers taht often unless it is super necessary</TD></TR></TABLE>
Guaruntee huh? Hope you wouldnt put money on it, because id be taking it right now. Plenty of people have gone over 10k on Ti ret.

And just a thought to leave you all with, is the only reason to upgrade your valvetrain improved reliability?

 

Honestly save yourself a headache....buy atleast some itr valve train its not that much...

 

yea i've tried searching. nothing on lsvtec.