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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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I just recently got into a fender bender accident so i was wondering if i purchased a primered black fender for my black 98 4 door civic, is there any way I can paint it myself so it'll seem like the factory color? Its primered dull black now and I heard i can just go to kragens or a car store where they sell car spray paint and find the color matching closest to the factory black and just keep doing layers of paint on it. Is that a good way to painting primered parts?
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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its all in the sanding/buffing.

yes, even a shitty kragen spray paint job can look decent with good sanding/buffing.

use the search button, and look it up. people have painted even their whole cars using this method. another road you may consider is roller painting.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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i mean its primered black already , doesnt that mean its ready to be painted without sanding?
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by datssoled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just recently got into a fender bender accident so i was wondering if i purchased a primered black fender for my black 98 4 door civic, is there any way I can paint it myself so it'll seem like the factory color? Its primered dull black now and I heard i can just go to kragens or a car store where they sell car spray paint and find the color matching closest to the factory black and just keep doing layers of paint on it. Is that a good way to painting primered parts? </TD></TR></TABLE>

1. It's already primered, so clean it 1st w/ some soap, water and a rag. Let it dry 100%.
2. Get some duplicolor paint can for your color, I'm guessing it's NHBP, you will prob need like 5-6 cans.
3. Lay on several very light coats. Work from top to bottom covering each previous stroke w/ the newer stroke. 50/50 method. Don't worry if you can't see the color after the first coat. Remember, LIGHT COATS.
4. After A LOT of very light coats, let it dry.
5. Wetsand it with 2000 grit, and use some rubbing compounf followed by wax.

I would recommend picking up a 6 pack for this process.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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Default Re: How do you paint primered black oem 98 civic fenders? (datssoled)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by datssoled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mean its primered black already , doesnt that mean its ready to be painted without sanding?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes in theory. but u can still block the primered surface and clean it to make sure there aren't any dust or particulates.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Leofski &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

1. It's already primered, so clean it 1st w/ some soap, water and a rag. Let it dry 100%.
2. Get some duplicolor paint can for your color, I'm guessing it's NHBP, you will prob need like 5-6 cans.
3. Lay on several very light coats. Work from top to bottom covering each previous stroke w/ the newer stroke. 50/50 method. Don't worry if you can't see the color after the first coat. Remember, LIGHT COATS.
4. After A LOT of very light coats, let it dry.
5. Wetsand it with 2000 grit, and use some rubbing compounf followed by wax.

I would recommend picking up a 6 pack for this process. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I thought they were spray cans instead of using brush for it. Im still a newbie so does wetsanding it with 2000 grit mean to soak the sand paper into water and then sand it down so the surface is smooth?
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by datssoled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I thought they were spray cans instead of using brush for it. Im still a newbie so does wetsanding it with 2000 grit mean to soak the sand paper into water and then sand it down so the surface is smooth?</TD></TR></TABLE>

...he is talking about spray cans... stroke being one pass of the spray.

yes, wetsanding is dipping the paper in water, then shaking off the excess water, and then sand at medium pressure, i'd say.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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haha do you really need 5-6 cans though? i was watching the DIY videos on duplicolor and he only seemed to use one can and another can of clear coat.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by datssoled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha do you really need 5-6 cans though? i was watching the DIY videos on duplicolor and he only seemed to use one can and another can of clear coat.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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dont be ghetto, the fenders are in a facotry sealer type primer, i would scuff them with a RED 3M scuff it pad and then get a can or 2 of a good etch primer if you absolutly have to rattle can them. then go get your duplicolor crap
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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so its better if i sand off the factory primer?
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by datssoled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so its better if i sand off the factory primer?</TD></TR></TABLE>
dont sand it all off, use the red pad to scuff the crap out of it so it isnt shiny,(not that it is very shiney to start with) but scuff it so it turns a little light shade of blackish than it already is
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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SO let me get it straight . I use the 3m red scuff pad and wet sand off a layer of the primer. After that then I use the duplicolor and spray it, thin layer after layer, letting it dry after each layer?. And at the end , should i spray coats of clear coats too?
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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yo do u guys know how much those duplicolor cans are at Kragen? are they really at Kragen, cuz i have never seen them
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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scuff it until it turns a duller black, a little light in color if you will,. you dont need water with the red pad, and you only need one, they last a long time, scuff it and etch primer it w/ the duplicolor and thne shoot your color and clear and wetsand your clear with 1000l, 1500 and then buff it. u only need to scuff the factory primer with the red. PM me if u need any more help, im a painter so, ill know whats up for yah
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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So far I sprayed on the color and sprayed on the clear coat with about half an hour wait on each layer. Its pretty much glossy now but still not matching my other OEM parts. Would wetsanding it with 2000 grit help? Or should i just leave it as it is?
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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you should DEFF. sand it down with something first, so the paint has something to stick too. i suggest at least 800 grit. if it were me i'd sand it with 400.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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haah i already painted it....im just wondering if i should sand the final product
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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wetsand w/ 2000 and then buff it
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by datssoled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So far I sprayed on the color and sprayed on the clear coat with about half an hour wait on each layer. Its pretty much glossy now but still not matching my other OEM parts. Would wetsanding it with 2000 grit help? Or should i just leave it as it is?</TD></TR></TABLE> Guess i should have read that. Depending on if its a metalic color or not, you may have to blend the color out. wetsandign with 2000 grit will do nothing for the color.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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haha alright cool. Im just going to let it dry now. Hopefully itll match or at least simliar to the other parts of the car haha.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Well so far in the beginning I sanded down the primer on the fender, then put about 4layers of nighthawk black pearl, then about 4-5 layers of clear coat. AFter that I wet sanded the fender down with 2000 grit, used rubbing compound, and then waxed it. It came out in about a 7/10 compared to a OEM paint job, but theres still some swirls and blemishes in there. Did I do anything wrong? Or is there anything I can do about the blemishes and swirls? Its pretty much glossy enough, just that it looks a little foggy in some spots.
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