Im picking one up this weekend and I need to know how to id it to make sure its the real thing. so I need to know if it has any special markings or anyting. thanks.

 

lol there is no fake aebs mani.......... its about as cheap as you can get........ just make sure its 1. big 2. ugly 3. has lines across the plenum

.............. but ive used one and it worked pretty well

 

shoulda gotten a import builders manifold...would make more power

but yea to check it, do what he said...

 

ive seen the inside of one of those manifolds and they are mighty ugly and not smooth.

 

ya but you cant be the price. 80 bucks. besides couldnt i just take it into a local machine shop and tell them to smooth it out if its rough?

 

im guessing you dont hove a ITR engine? if you do why would you want to change the manifold? its(itr)one of the best ones to have.

 

i do have the itr motor. Its just that im getting cams soon and ive seen soom good dyno sheets about the aebs manifold. so is there any way to tell that its forsure the aebs manifold.

 

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The OEM B18C ITR intake manifold is very good, and people proved very quickly that most aftermarket intake manifolds did not add anything. B motor manifolds like the Skunk 2 appear to be copies of the ITR manifold. They add something to the B16A2 and B18C1 motors, but absolutely nothing to the B18C5.

On the other hand, rumours persist that other manifolds like the AEBS and IB will help if you're building up your motor, and it sounds like the original poster did his research to verify this.

 

I have the ABES Mani and I can attest to the fact that it is NOT and Improvment over the Stock R Mani...

The Claims were that the Manifold would IMPROVE OVER the B18c5 Mani and this is Just not true... I t doesn't HURT anything as far as I can see... But it is rather ROUGH inside... really rough.

 

By any chance would you remember before and after dyno figures, with the manifold being the only change? Did you retune the computer after installing the manifold?

 

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I have seen numerous tunes with the IB manifold, and it definately is worth the money, makes very good power.

 

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On the other hand, rumours persist that other manifolds like the AEBS and IB will help if you're building up your motor, and it sounds like the original poster did his research to verify this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ive talked to DonF about the skunk2 proseries manifold and he tells me its a great upgrade.

 

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No I don't have the Numbers. This was done about 2 years ago and Many other Mods Since then I just remember there was No significant Difference maybe 2 hp that could be acredited to Minor Fluations of the Dyno itself. I can't remember the claims of the maker but it was like 20 hp over Stock... with only the IM change... they had published the Dyno sheet with the product. I saw nothing even close to that range... So I wondered if it was the B16 STOCK Mani they spoke of and Not the R...

I asked the tuner of smoothing out the runners would make a difference and he said Nothing NOTABLE would come of that.

When pricing an Upgrade 80 bux is Not that Much for an IM.. But think of Labor involved to install and TUNE it to your setup... Use that as a factor in deciding. In hindsite, on a NA car it was not worth the $$ even if it netted 5-8 hp over stock... I purchased it at 125 bux I installed it myself so that saved a bit but tunning was 150 which isn't much if you think about optimization but 275 bux for 5-8 hp IF THAT... doesn't seem worth it to ME... IMO

 

well im not going to be putting it on and not tuning it. Itll be going on when I get the cams and everthing else for the head. Ive been searching on this for a while now and ive seen alot of people accually notice a difference between the stock and the aebs. So does anyone on here have anything good to say about this lol.

 

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I've seen one and I know someone who has one. It's no substitute for the ITR mani though. ITR mani + Extrude Hone + port matching...

 

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It is a good substitute for the ITR IM.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=631044

If you can deal with the fact that it is a bit ugly and the casting (apparently it varies from when it was made) is quite rough.

For less than the cost of a new or even used ITR IM, you can be making just as much if not slightly more power than it. Guys like b19coupe have verified that it does flow better than the stock ITR IM, but even with his moderate build, he wasn't able to make that much more than stock.

Either way, the AEBS, is for those who

1) do not have an ITR IM to start
2) have an ITR IM, but want to get every single last hp outta the motor without spending $400-$500 on an IB ported IM (which is clearly superior)

 

well whats the difference between the AEBS and the IB manifold?

 

the difference is SEARCH.

 

the IB manifold is a ported stock itr mani...... take it off, send it to them, they cut it open and port it out..... then ship it back to you