I cant decide to go turbo, or stay N/A with my GSR.
I guess I would rather go turbo for the power, but i was told that the turbo gsr motor will only last about 30-45k If this is true there is a huge question mark hovering above my head everytime I think of going turbo. I have a 96 GSR with 21k and would like to have my car run for many many years to come. Could someone verify this or give me some more info on the timeperiod of a turbo motor, on stock internals.

Thanks "P"

 

on stock internals youre gonna eventually need a rebuild...but once you bump the compression and raise your redline in an N/A situation....you will also shorten the life of your motor. i think n/a would outlast turbo however...but tuned properly your motor would last a long time w/ turbo...just make sure you have it installed/tuned properly...go to forced induction forum also for more opinions.

 

if you run 5 psi on a stock motor you should have a pretty reliable motor.

if you bump it up to 10 psi, thats a whole new ballgame.

 

that problem is if u can save up for turbo
which requires u to unload 3grand off the bat, then eat your money with all electronics and extras.

n/a u can mod one after the other.

u can run inlinepro's headgasket to run compression somewhere in the 9's
for reliability

 

I've had the same debate in my head for about 2 years now. The simple fact is...when you take a motor that wasn't meant for a turbo and slap a turbo on it, just expect there to be some problems with the motor that you wouldn't expect to happen if it were still NA. Even running low boost you'll have problems sooner or later.....Don't expect to spend just 3000 on the kit and be done with it, it costs at least 5-6 thousand in order to properly complete the turbo install with other necessary components that you need. My advice is to just stay NA with your gsr or buy a car that has a turbo from the factory and build up from there........of course this is just my honest opinion....

 

so youre sayin you can add pistons now.. and then add rods later? hahahah

the electronics would simply include a turbo timer, boost guage, and maybe throw in an air/fuel guage if you wanted one. even a N/A setup requires guages. he doesnt need to get a boost controller if he doesnt want one. i dont see how electronics would be costly if he wanted a simple setup for reliability.

 

i would definitely go turbo. i debated it myself for awhile, but when i sat in a turbo eclipse i caught turbo fever almost instantly. when i slapped on my kit.. i had 115,000 miles on my motor. i cant tell you that your motor will last forever... but it will last for as long as you take care of it. dont overboost and do regular tuneups. maintenance is the key also. get yourself a turbo kit.. do a good install... and youll love the power potential. rebuild the motor later when you have the funds for it. with a gsr motor, you can boost 7lbs safely. i recommend boostin around 5lbs. not too much wear and tear on your motor and youll love spankin fools on the streets.

quote from uncle ben in the spiderman movie: "with great power comes great responsibility"


[Modified by dlplayboy, 11:10 AM 5/4/2002]

 

turbo
ditch the crappy fuel management that comes with the kit's and go standalone ... it's not cheap to go turbo but going n/a can also take a big hit out of your wallet when you delve into the longblock for internal work.

 

u dont' even need to add rods

u can build 200whp motor and throw it in a hatch with all oem parts
just need a big header and exhaust system.

ctr pistons ina gsr motor stock rods.

 

low level boost gets my vote. <U>when</U> you get boost fever you'll be able to upgrade rather then ditching your whole n/a setup. I like n/a too, so no hate

 

need to get those CTR pistons machined to fit the stock rods though. So you might as well do new rods, which means you might as well do after market pistons


[Modified by 2fastGSR, 12:12 AM 5/5/2002]

 

if youve got the money upfront turbo, if you have patience save up for turbo, but if youre an impatient bastard like me and only have about 2-300 a month to spend, then go n/a. do stuff like i/h/e pulleys, intake manifold, throttle body, cams, gears, flywheel and so on. when you buy it a part at a time it doesnt seem to expensive. well fo rme anyways.
its up to you really if you want a car thats fast, or one thats just fun to drive.

 

Well thats the thing, I do have the money at the moment for the turbo. Would running a GSR greddy turbo kit at (8.5psi the preset boost) with a big intercooler, turbo timer, and a profec b. Would this be a good setup that will last past 100k.
Taking into consideration that i only have 20k on my 96 GSR...

And thanks for all the info, you guys never let me down.


[Modified by 94mugenintegra, 1:01 AM 5/5/2002]

 

id run it at a bit less than that...maybe 7...since its daily driven you dont need the extra heat of 8.5.
100 is a realistic possibility IF you dont drive you car hard all the time, take car of basic maintenence, monitor all systems all the time.

 

heheh Ghetto Setup

Turbo Timer= wait it out, count to a min then shut off
electronic turbo contr= go manual

 

I work at acura here in Madison, WI and keep up on all the work that is service related. so if you had the cash and a 96 gsr with 21k would you go Greddy turbo kit, big intercooler, profec B, turbo timer, type s blow off valve, and intercooler piping, (i can get it all shipped to me new for 3500) Would you do this, and does it sound like a good setup that will last, keeping in mind staying at 8.5 psi with the blue box ?

 

For me, the choice is obvious. Go the route that the car was intended for. For honda, thats N/A. ****..........they haven't even made any turbo cars except the honda city turbo and possibly some other obscure japan only car that Im not aware of. If you have your heart set on turbo, there are a lot cheaper, faster, more reliable means of acheiving it. Stay N/A or get a diamondstar, or at least something that came with a snail from the factory. It will save you a lot of headaches.

 

The only bad thing about turbo is that boost is addicting. Always want more power=more$$$$.

 

True, but bosting a little will be better than no boosting at all