Looking into making C-pillar and REar strut bars. Help?

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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I am looking at making a rear C-pillar bar and a Rear strut tower bar.

The C-pillar bar will bolt up to the stock rear seatbelt locations.

The strut bar will bolt up to the two mount locations on the shock tower.

I will use a nice stiff peice of square 1" steel tubing for the actual bars. I also have access to a welder, so that is not a problem.

The only problem I am having is the mounting locations. How can I make a plate or somthing to slide over the shock bolts?

How can I make a bracket to bolt onto the seatbelt location? Anyone got pix?
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Aight, I was thinkng about this. instead of making one strut bar and a horse-shoe shaped peice that went to both bolts on the tower, I would do two bars, one for each mounting bolt. Like this pic: (the bar is standard square tubing.)

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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it would look like this from the top:

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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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good idea, but i prolly would brace the two sections together.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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agreed.. if you braced them together on each end, you would take out the twist/flex factor!

Also, you might want to look into it but it might benifit you to jack the car up at a center point b4 taking measurments.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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So make like an:

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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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If I wanted to do just one bar though, how would I make a mounting bracket?
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So make like an:

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yes, that would eliminate the flex & increase stability. I would personally put the 2 connecting bars twords the ends.

That would definatly be more flex resistant than a single bar.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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id say angle the bars and have them cross over in the middle like an X if you can weld the middle of the two bars together...

good luck with it
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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I did exactly what you guys are talking about. Worked great. After a couple years, I took that out, redid it with round tubing and made a bar that is like the passwordjdm bars that rear down to the trunk floor as well. I did mine about 6 months before their's hit the market and sold a few. Everyone loves them.
So, friggen do it! You will love it. It ties the back end together much better than any aftermarket bar I had in the past.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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What do u think of this pic?

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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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You are taking all the strength out of that tube by cutting the end like that.

It will bend very easily.


If you want to do it like that at least take a piece of flat bar and bend it and weld it in the end there.


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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Instead of putting the braces straight across create triangles. Triangles are much stiffer than box's.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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since you have access to a welder... instead of cutting the end of the tube like that... just cope the end of the tube to accept a short piece of round tube with a washer welded in the bottom
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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bolting a bar down to help handling is not always a good idea. the movement you have in the mounting location will be the same when the chassis is actually moving. you would need to weld the bars directly to the chassis for it to be useful. not trying to down the project or anything. just the way it is.
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by postman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bolting a bar down to help handling is not always a good idea. the movement you have in the mounting location will be the same when the chassis is actually moving. you would need to weld the bars directly to the chassis for it to be useful. not trying to down the project or anything. just the way it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Strut bars are a very common thing. I don't see the problem. And I also have a new idea thanx to my boys in the EF Forum.

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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Timmay made a set for his 4dr EG (the silver one for those of you that know him) about 4 or 5 years ago now. i dunno if he reads this forum but i bet he has pics, it looked pretty good.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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heres a pic of the front strut tower bar I made for my eg:
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Nice, bt again, I don't have the facilities to cut metal to make those mounting brackets.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice, bt again, I don't have the facilities to cut metal to make those mounting brackets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I made it in my garage, made it with an angle grinder, drill, and a welder.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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im thinking about making one too, ill make a cool lil paint pic too see what you guys think... one min
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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you get the idea from the shitty pic I hope??? I already have mounting brackets on the shocktowers from my current rear strut bar, so I was just gonna use a piece of 1.5" tubing thats laying around the shop, flatten the ends a little in a vise and put that in there with some bolts. As for the seatbelt locations I was gonna make brackets out of 7/16 or 1/2" steel, whatever is laying around, and bolt them up then fit 2 more pieces of steel tubing in there at angles like shown and weld it all up. Easy hour job to do at school, with free materials I might add. haha
What the hell if I dont like it Ill sell it on ebay right
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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does anybody know if home depot would have the materials for this and what is a good type of pipe/tube to use for this i want it stif and strong but not ridiculously heavy and i just have a mig im gonna have to get in on this project too will this be as stiff as a say 6 point cage if i also tie in to the b pillars since it mounts to the body and it is a unibody chasis
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