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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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I finally gave in and bought a mugen intake, after reading so many threads on this and other forums i couldnt resist it any more and so took the plunge and bought one. I should have it by wednesday next week. Now to my question, i have a 96spec JDM ITR and i know there should be no problem installing it as i dont have ABS and already have the lower resonator box and snorkel removed so its purely a matter of bolting it in (more or less) With my current intake set up (BMC Carbon Dynamic Airbox) i have the front vent thing on the JDM bumper cut out and replaced it with mesh, and the cold air feed runs from inside the mesh to the airbox. I have been told that this may not work so well with the mugen intake and that i should direct the trumpet on the end of the mugen snorkle away from the cut out so that air is not being forced into it, as it will cause too much disturbance in the air...but i'm thinking that the filter and the velocity stack will smooth/calm down this air before it reaches the throttle body. After spending the best part of $550 on the airbox i want it to work to its optimum and so will block up the vent thing again if necessary. What i was originally going to do was get a J's racing carbon duct and somehow connect up a bit of flexi pipe to the end of it leading to the end of the snorkel but i'm now being told not to do this. Ideas/input please.....

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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I ran my Icebox with the Z-spec duct from the bumper, but I didn't attach it directly to the snorkel because we get alot of rain here and I didnt want to risk water getting into the intake manifold.

I run the mugen now and I am going to try and do the same thing again soon once I get another duct. But once again I am not going to attach it directly. I'm just going to point the snorkel at the duct opening.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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I was just looking at a pic of the mugen front bumper and the vents on either side are open, so i'm thinking it shouldnt make any difference to the way the intake works, otherwise they would have blocked off the vent on the mugen bumper in order to make the most of the intake....I think maybe i'll leave the mesh and see how things go after i get it fitted and then block off the vent and see if theres any difference (somehow i dont think there will be)
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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make sure to give us a review when you install it
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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I purchased one as well

who mentioned to you that forcing air into the airhorn will cause disturbance? Logically one would think that forcing air into the duct would result in benefits.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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But then again you have to realize that Mugen knows what they are doing when they designed it. And the snorkel is supposed to point upward and have the spash shield over it.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 03:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seedc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I purchased one as well

who mentioned to you that forcing air into the airhorn will cause disturbance? Logically one would think that forcing air into the duct would result in benefits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was a friend of mine who has one, i dont know where he heard it from though, but it got me thinking
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But then again you have to realize that Mugen knows what they are doing when they designed it. And the snorkel is supposed to point upward and have the spash shield over it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine faces upward and works well.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Man, everyone is buying these intakes! There must be something special about them.

(I too am patiently waiting for mine to sent to me)
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Two more questions, i'm assuming i dont need to, but to be sure...i can fit the mugen intake without removing the front bumper.....right? Does the trumpet end of the snorkel fit through the hole where the snorkel goes, or will i need to peel back the arch liner to fit it on the end of the snorkel?
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Two more questions, i'm assuming i dont need to, but to be sure...i can fit the mugen intake without removing the front bumper.....right? Does the trumpet end of the snorkel fit through the hole where the snorkel goes, or will i need to peel back the arch liner to fit it on the end of the snorkel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Though I didn't have ac lines to give me any trouble, I didn't remove the front bumper. I did however have the car on a lift for the install. You will have to peel back the fender liner for the install as well. PM me if you have any more questions.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Thanks man, my car is a JDM 96spec with no ABS or air con lines (on that side) to contend with. Its just the last time i took the front bumper off i had a bitch of a time re-fitting it on my own and wanted to know if i should have someone there to give me a hand to put it back on again (and you know how it is when you need someone theres never anyone available, yet when you want time to do something on your own, you cant get rid of peope )
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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Taking off the bumper is NOT necessary....
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Got mine today!!! What a nice piece of kit and isnt it freekin huge!!! I was a little surprised when i took out the filter and seen the sticker on the box stating 'universal clamp on filter' and then 'GRuppeM' at the very bottom. So mugen phoned 'aFe' and said send us over a load of your universal filters so sell with our airbox???? I would have thought that the filter would also have been flow tested and spec'd to work correctly/precisely with the intake box design?
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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I fitted it today Fitting the airbox took all of <U>3</U>, yes THREE minutes to get it in, bolted down and the intake pipe fitted onto it. It slid in easily without any problems. Fitting the trumpet took about another 10 minutes (jacking up car, removing wheel, peeling back the arch liner) Fitting the splash guard took almost an hour and a half Couldnt figure it out at first, then found a thread on here showing where it locates, but it still took another almost 45minutes once i knew where to fit it, you need tiny hands (which i dont have) to be able to get in at the front bolt location. It doesnt screw in as the hole is a little bigger than a 10mm bolt, so you have to use a nut and bolt, which meant getting both hands in, one to hold the bolt and the other to tighten the nut...i could only tighten maybe 1/16 of a turn at a time, so it took forever and i dropped both wrenches countless times, my hands and arms are cut and scraped to **** from fitting that damn thing. The bolt at the rear of the guard took 2 minutes to fit and tighten. Anywho its fitted now. I couldnt really get a good blast in the car as friday evening traffic is crazy so will have to wait till tomorrow morning to get a good run and see what all the hype is about





I covered the foil/aluminium tape in duct tape...dunno why, i just did
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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hotness!
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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mad tight jdm yo!
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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tell us more after running it! very nice by the way
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 04:41 AM
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I just received my 99 Spec R from Japan.

This has the same Mugen CAI installed with :

shield plate
Snorkel facing UP
mesh both sides in bumper

I ordered my J's Airduct, I should have it next week,I will leave the snorkel as it is, to test is, like mentioned in this thread.

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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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didn't know this was you carl
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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GUYS,

i GOT MY ITR WITH THE MUGEN CAI, BUT I DONT FEEL ANY DIFF AS WHEN I DRIVE MY FRIEND ITR WITH AEM CAI.

ANY RESULTS PER DYNO WITH MUGEN CAI VS AEM CAI??

ANY ONE CAN RELATE THIS FOR ME, SINCE I HAVE MY NEW CAI AEM , ready to move the MUGEN and install CAI.

I am in Curacao, maybe the Air is not that cold for the MUGEN? i dont know.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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You'll get a slump in power just before vtec with the AEM which you wont get with the mugen intake, and you more likely to get heat soak with the AEM as its metal/aluminium than the mugen which uses the stock intake pipe which doesnt suffer from heat soak.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Ur missing the part that bolts to the top of the frame rail..
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ur missing the part that bolts to the top of the frame rail..</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you mean the flat bit that sticks out from the left hand side of the intake as you stand at the front of the car then it is bolted down there, you just cant see it in the picture. I couldnt get the little bracket that attaches to the velocity stack to line up with the bracket on the shock tower, but i dont really see any need for it as its bolted down at the side and then i have the bracket/circlip on the snorkel underneath so its not going anywhere, there is absolutely no movement in the whole thing at all.
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