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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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Help me make up my mind! Anyone have experience with eithier of these? Seems you can get the Lincoln for cheaper!
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Both are nice machines, I personally prefer the miller. I like the way the synchrowaves weld, that is the machine i am buying.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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you might...want to look into the dynasty series, I own a syncrowave 200 and a dynasty 200DX and I love the dynasty so much more... but both are awsome, you cant go wrong with miller. have fun!
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TIGboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you might...want to look into the dynasty series, I own a syncrowave 200 and a dynasty 200DX and I love the dynasty so much more... but both are awsome, you cant go wrong with miller. have fun! </TD></TR></TABLE>


i would love to have the dynasty but there about a 1k more. Why dont you sell me ones of yours for a good price
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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I have the 275, I love it but its gotta weigh atleast 600+ pounds with a bottle. Yet it has never let me down on a job
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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I have tried both, I liked the syncrowave 200 better so I bought it. Now I am selling the sync 200 to move to a dynasty 200dx.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Default Re: lookin to buy a tig! Precision 225 or Syncrowave 200? (dave@passenger)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dave@passenger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have tried both, I liked the syncrowave 200 better so I bought it. Now I am selling the sync 200 to move to a dynasty 200dx.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I how sweet it will be to sell my sync200 for a dynasty.

Syncrowave200 is no doubt a BADASS machine. My first tig machine actually, and from here, I love it! Yet, be nice to have something I can lug around also. Either or.

MILLER gets my vote.
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Ive owned the square 175, precision 275 and 375, and an older syncro 250... I use the newer syncro 250dx and 351 and the precision 275 daily at work as well as the dynasty 200 on occasion , which I DONT like by the way, and Imma say my older 250 is by far the best welding machine Ive owned or used for that matter... just something about those older Miller machines.... Miller all the way for me now
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by antireversion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive owned the square 175, precision 275 and 375, and an older syncro 250... I use the newer syncro 250dx and 351 and the precision 275 daily at work as well as the dynasty 200 on occasion , which I DONT like by the way, and Imma say my older 250 is by far the best welding machine Ive owned or used for that matter... just something about those older Miller machines.... Miller all the way for me now</TD></TR></TABLE>


thats what ive been told. Im keeping my eye out for an older syncrowave 250. If you know of someone selling one let me know
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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the precision has 30 amps more power. is that worth considering? With these two machines would the 30 amps make you lean toward the lincoln? Whats the pluses to having 30 more amps?
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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hello guys im new to welding I was going to buy a miller 200 sycrowave and when I went to the supply store the salesperson directed me a diffrent way he wanted to sell me a lincoln 225 beacuse it had 30 more amps and was easier to hook up than the miller than I went to welding school and they wanted to sell me tig welder that was like a miller 250 but for about 1300 less than the miller it had tons of diffrent settings for welding aluminum I think he said up to 200amps and from 220 outlet the machine was from HTP they say that AMS welds all their perfrmance parts with that machine that was the one I used it was very easy to weld aluminum but remember that was my first time tigging and I have never used a miller or a lincoln but it was very interesting class
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eddie_ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello guys im new to welding I was going to buy a miller 200 sycrowave and when I went to the supply store the salesperson directed me a diffrent way he wanted to sell me a lincoln 225 beacuse it had 30 more amps and was easier to hook up than the miller than I went to welding school and they wanted to sell me tig welder that was like a miller 250 but for about 1300 less than the miller it had tons of diffrent settings for welding aluminum I think he said up to 200amps and from 220 outlet the machine was from HTP they say that AMS welds all their perfrmance parts with that machine that was the one I used it was very easy to weld aluminum but remember that was my first time tigging and I have never used a miller or a lincoln but it was very interesting class </TD></TR></TABLE>

i heard good thing about these welders and there the same price as the ones above but there not proven like the miller or lincoln
http://www.htpweld.com/product...x.htm
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Yea I know what I liked about the HTP im from chicago and the people that sell them her repair them too if something happens no down time the other thing I liked was that they were small and light enough to carry in your trunk or something and that was good so im still saving my money and still torn between Miller,Lincoln and HTP.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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We have a Lincoln Precision Tig 375. Customer service is crap. One of the electronics boards went out on the machine and they made us drag the 700lb machine close to 100 miles away to have it fixed.

Should be able to send a person out, diagnose the problem, leave, and bring back the new part once they have it. Especially for how much a 375 costs and it broke within 3 months of purchase.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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I've used both an older synrowave 250 and my newer syncrowave 250, and the newer one seems to weld better to me. I've also used an older miller 350 i think it was, it was huge!, and i wasn't too impressed with it either.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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HTP
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by david@didrace.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have a Lincoln Precision Tig 375. Customer service is crap. One of the electronics boards went out on the machine and they made us drag the 700lb machine close to 100 miles away to have it fixed.

Should be able to send a person out, diagnose the problem, leave, and bring back the new part once they have it. Especially for how much a 375 costs and it broke within 3 months of purchase.</TD></TR></TABLE>


that might be the deciding factor
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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is there a place besides ebay that is a good source for used welders?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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racingjunk.com

not a bad place for used shop equipment and so forth
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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See which company your local welding shop carries and services...My local one is primarily miller and so thats what I use.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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Reading through the Lincoln and Miller comparison charts, Lincoln gives you the feeling the Precision has a better build quality then the Syncrowave.
Comparison Chart on the lower right: http://www.mylincolnelectric.c...39579

I was all set to buy the Lincoln but from the post above, most people prefer the Millers. I'm a litte confused.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Reading through the Lincoln and Miller comparison charts, Lincoln gives you the feeling the Precision has a better build quality then the Syncrowave.
Comparison Chart on the lower right: http://www.mylincolnelectric.c...39579

I was all set to buy the Lincoln but from the post above, most people prefer the Millers. I'm a litte confused.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Buy the Miller. I weld on a precision 275, some older lincoln 255 tig and use the Lincoln STT-II inverter power source with a remote wire feeder(it's Surface Tension Trasnfer wire welding. It's a 10k mig welder) and sometimes run a Fanuc arcmate 120 robot welder powered by that same inverter power source (mig) and in the 6 months I've worked at this place the 275 tig has been down for 2 weeks, the 255 tig down for 3 weeks. The inverter/mig I use for manual welding fried completely in my first 2 months. We've been screwing around with Lincoln for 4 months about that piece of ****(it's ungodly awsome when it works though. Google it) I ganked the power source from the robot since that was down for an un Lincoln related problem and I killed it in about a month.

When I run out of Lincolns to break I wheel the ole Millermatic 250 or SD 180 out and actually work.

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I have the previous version (about 5 years old) to this Lincoln http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/c000032.htm The Lincoln Squarewave 275. I love it. Great machine. Absolutely no problems with it. I picked the bare machine up new, on a model close out sale for just a little over $1K. I've welded aluminum cake pans with it, so its control is phenomenal, and it will plow the heat into 1/4 in aluminum A-OK. I've been into the internals, adding additional features to the control circuits. Very stable, reliable, machine. I am happy with it in all ways.

I use a small water cooled torch. Built my own cooling system with a gallon plastic can, pump from WW Grainger and an old transmission oil cooler, well cleaned. 50% Fleet Charge antifreeze and 50% distilled water for coolant. I use argon for steel and aluminum. 2%thoriated tungstens (red tip). I added the phase balancing capacitors for going up into the high heat range on aluminum. Mine is single phase 220V fed.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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I have never had any luck with Lincolns.
The fancy new wire feeders we got at work are part-time, and the TIG
my buddy has let him down a few times.
I used a lincoln dc generator when I worked on the iron, it was the worst P.O.S ever.
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It's your money though.
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