Well the guy who owned it befor me raped the body
he took a old M-eclipse body kit (blitz) and used fkin plumbers fome to mold the kit on my car... hated it and riped it off i went to a junk yard and searched high and low and found all the parts i needed for the car to make the body stock again

Also he went and got a B20A claims its a 1994 JDM accord engine
I notice it has few And fare censors in it, another problem is that i have to **** the distributior to get the fireing order to hit right.

ok aside from all that heres the deal

i want to make this b20a a Vtec is there ne kind of help sites to give me a kick in the door

I am currently A UTI student so im getting alot of good Teaching about racing and swaps at my school but i wanna do this ASAP

I have all the equip I would ever need since I can borrow tools from my school use there lifts only on Saturdays and use all eletrionic equipment

i know the vtec runs off oil pressure i need to know how to run the lines

also is the B16A2 the best head to mount on the b20 block?
also if not what are the benifits of the b16 over the b18
staing at low compression

also im in process of converting it form a automatic/manual i have the assembly and the man trannie is there ne problems i am going to encounter

 

What's up man? I'm a UTI student too, in Houston

As far as the head swap goes the B20 and B21 in the 3rd gen Prelude has no resemblance to the B-series which the B16, B18 and B20B from a CRV reside in. Also Accords from the late 80's early 90s only came with the A20A3 or the F20a or F22a4. That B20a5 that's in there came with the car.

If you want VTEC I think your best bet would be to swap in an H22, that's fairly common for 3rd gens and you'd be starting off with more power than a B-series. I think there's a write-up for it somewhere around here.

 

The engine could be from a JDM 3rd gen lude, which is the b20a.

I agree with 92SleeperH23 on everything else

 

Nice Dude im UTI Exton, PA only got Audi and VW here you guys got all the goods out there in houston what corse you takeing and you adding FACT?

Also its it just a B20A no numbers or letters after that

So you saying dont do the swap with a b20 bace and a b16 head do h22 head?

 

hm, I guess if it's a B20A it is JDM, just not from Prelude and not an Accord as stated above. I dunno, I know more about 4th & 5th gens.

I was just sayin the B-series in Preludes isn't the same as the B-series that has the B16 and B18 from Integras and Civics. A lot of 3rd gen guys do an H22 swap if anything

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92SleeperH23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's up man? I'm a UTI student too, in Houston

As far as the head swap goes the B20 and B21 in the 3rd gen Prelude has no resemblance to the B-series which the B16, B18 and B20B from a CRV reside in. Also Accords from the late 80's early 90s only came with the A20A3 or the F20a or F22a4. That B20a5 that's in there came with the car.

If you want VTEC I think your best bet would be to swap in an H22, that's fairly common for 3rd gens and you'd be starting off with more power than a B-series. I think there's a write-up for it somewhere around here.</TD></TR></TABLE>

even swapping an h22 in a 3rd gen isnt that easy...

 

Yeah, but I've seen it done more than any other engine by a wide margin

 

Dosnt need to be Easy i got a Whole bunch of help from the instructor and all the tools id need for the swap from school.

So question a b16 head will not mount to the b20a i have seen photo's of this frankenstine
and ppl say its great for the compression..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92SleeperH23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, but I've seen it done more than any other engine by a wide margin</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh I know. Its really the most common swap, other than another b20a. I just do not want to give the OP a false sense that swappin an h22 in a 3rd ge. is just as easy in a 4th gen or a 5th gen.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ludeist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dosnt need to be Easy i got a Whole bunch of help from the instructor and all the tools id need for the swap from school.

So question a b16 head will not mount to the b20a i have seen photo's of this frankenstine
and ppl say its great for the compression..</TD></TR></TABLE>

it will mount to the b20B or b20Z, which both came in the CRV. The b20a is sort of the red headed step child of b-series.

its like this, I had an f22 in my prelude. The engine in an s2000 is an f22. I couldnt put this engine in my prelude without some heavy modification, and the head will not bolt to the prelude f22 block...

its sort of the same concept.

 

you can put a b16 head on the b20a but there is a buttload of custum work you have to do for it to work and you gotta do it RIGHT in order for it to be reliable. b20luda on preludepower was selling a modded b16 head that fit on the b20a.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ludasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can put a b16 head on the b20a but there is a buttload of custum work you have to do for it to work and you gotta do it RIGHT in order for it to be reliable. b20luda on preludepower was selling a modded b16 head that fit on the b20a.</TD></TR></TABLE>

show me a link to one that has been done. I have seen some attempted, but never succeed. And I would be willing to be, you still wont make the power of an h22

 

http://www.preludepower.com/fo...08989

another b20a/vtec swap
with pics

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ludeist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.preludepower.com/fo...08989

another b20a/vtec swap
with pics</TD></TR></TABLE>

OK, I have been proven wrong. The first one I have seen completed. BUT, he said it made 300whp...

I call bullshit on that. Even with an awesome build, it is VERY hard to get 300whp N/A on a 4 cylinder. Esp. since that is an OEM header. If you ask me....it would take alot of custom work, and ALOT of money to get this to work. More money than its worth. Swap in an h22 for cheaper, and make more power than that B20A/vtec

 

ok, so i don't know if it was a b16 head for sure but:

http://www.preludepower.com/fo...light=

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, I have been proven wrong. The first one I have seen completed. BUT, he said it made 300whp...

I call bullshit on that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2. No way in hell. He also says his redline is "around 10,500".

He also says "Ok sorry guys I don't really have the time to answer all of the questions on here but if somebody buys the head I will give you all of the info and support you need to do this swap."

I'm not saying it's not possible, but I do believe that guy is full of **** on how much power he's making

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ludasaurus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, so i don't know if it was a b16 head for sure but:

http://www.preludepower.com/fo...light=</TD></TR></TABLE>

the thing that really gets me is...

the head hangs over the block a little bit. how do the holes for the headbolts line up with the holes on the block?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92SleeperH23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">x2. No way in hell. He also says his redline is "around 10,500".

He also says "Ok sorry guys I don't really have the time to answer all of the questions on here but if somebody buys the head I will give you all of the info and support you need to do this swap."

I'm not saying it's not possible, but I do believe that guy is full of **** on how much power he's making</TD></TR></TABLE>

for real. I mean, 10,500 redline. I know some guys on bikes that done rev to that. I call bullshit x2

 

Don't ask me...I'm not the one selling it. Also, the whole revving deal...it has to be bullshit because the B20A has a bottom end that cannot take high revs whatsoever. The highest you should rev is maybe 7Kish if you're pushin' it. I don't remember but I believe it's because it has a horrible rod/stroke ratio...however, others say it isn't because of that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it will mount to the b20B or b20Z, which both came in the CRV. The b20a is sort of the red headed step child of b-series.

its like this, I had an f22 in my prelude. The engine in an s2000 is an f22. I couldnt put this engine in my prelude without some heavy modification, and the head will not bolt to the prelude f22 block...

its sort of the same concept.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The s2k motor is a F20c actuall, not a f22.. not really the same concept at all..

Also a wad of BS about that 10krpm b20a...plus he has got a turbo so its not n/a power.. also he didnt know what his output was.. and with a motor thats reving to 10.5krpm untuned/dynoed is so full of **** and his eyes are turning brown.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chuckles99SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The s2k motor is a F20c actuall, not a f22.. not really the same concept at all..

Also a wad of BS about that 10krpm b20a...plus he has got a turbo so its not n/a power.. also he didnt know what his output was.. and with a motor thats reving to 10.5krpm untuned/dynoed is so full of **** and his eyes are turning brown.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually...that new s2000 is a 2.2 l motor, which is an f22(not sure of the letter that goes here, lol)

but that wasn't my point. My point was that just b/c I had an F22 in my prelude, doesnt mean its the same f22 that is in the S2k...

oh, and the older s2000's were a 2.0L

the picture of the turbo is just the b20a I believe. If you look at the pics of the b20a/vtec, its got what looks to be a stock exhaust manifold.

 

Welp the Car is Fked, I took the bumpers off and the Fenders to make room for the new CoilOvers and its totally rotten i spend MonDay at school with the car on the life And i tore the b20a out and Dumped the shell

After takeing it of i decided to put it on a mass air flow and a engine dino the engine dino was surpriseing by far even for a almost 20 year old honda shes doing 155 to the crank and 143 whp at 137lbs of torqe im almost sure i got the numbers right

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ludeist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Welp the Car is Fked, I took the bumpers off and the Fenders to make room for the new CoilOvers and its totally rotten i spend MonDay at school with the car on the life And i tore the b20a out and Dumped the shell

After takeing it of i decided to put it on a mass air flow and a engine dino the engine dino was surpriseing by far even for a almost 20 year old honda shes doing 155 to the crank and 143 whp at 137lbs of torqe im almost sure i got the numbers right</TD></TR></TABLE>

only lost 12 hp through the drivetrain?? I dont know if that sounds right