Hey guys gals, Im new to the board, I drive a 2001 CW type-R with 70km's on it. Ive read through everything and cant find anything that relates to my problems.. so Im asking you guys for help..

1.) When Im accelerating, and the rpm's reach just past 8000 the guage needle will bounce back to 1000rpm, then back to where I was.... now Ive heard from a mechanic that this was common in the ITR's.. has anyone had this? Its really odd..

2.) When vtec engages, a HUGE cloud of black and a tiny bit of blue comes out. I know black is fuel.. but why blue? And why would it be doing this with such low kms? And how can I fix it? (Its kinda embarassing haha)

3.) When I first got the car, after a short drive, if I went back to start it again (after like 10-15 mins) it would start, then idle funny, and stall. And would do that several times before it would finally stay running. So I replaced the main relay and so far so good.. thing is, the main relay was replaced once before as well... Any ideas??

Thanks in advance!
Jillian.


Modified by MissITR at 10:31 AM 10/4/2006

 

1.) you may have a electrical grounding problem, have your mechanic check it out

2.) edit: sorry for the dyslexia

3.) keep your fingers crossed on the so far so good part?





Modified by BlueR at 1:46 PM 10/4/2006

 

Welcome

Not sure about #1 but #2 is likely damaged piston rings/ringlands. This is pretty common with DOHC Honda motors. Mine is in the same situation (with more miles on it).

#3 Sounds like possibly a fuel delivery problem..fuel filter or pump perhaps?

 

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I thought blue smoke was likely oil being burned.

 

I thought blue meant your valve seals were done.. and black was too much fuel..

*I posted a pic up btw, and dont worry, Ive taken off the nasty tint *

 

Black is fuel and Blue is Oil

the puff of blue you see when you let go of gas is your valve seals on their way out.

with the gauge, I haven't noticed anything of some sort when revving up to 9000 and having it drop down to 1000. the only time when the the tach acted all wonkey was when the Ignitor was going/died when it did all that good stuff.

check all your grounds


Also, contact the previous owner to see how he remedied these problems.

 

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2.) Black is OIL, Blue is FUEL...check to see that your not running too rich
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Black is fuel and blue is oil...you have it the wrong way around.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MissITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought blue meant your valve seals were done.. and black was too much fuel..

*I posted a pic up btw, and dont worry, Ive taken off the nasty tint * </TD></TR></TABLE>


I had my cylinder head rebuilt and valve seals and tolerance were fine at 100,000 miles. It still burns oil and produces smoke though. Save your money for the rings.

You car looks sharp

 

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Also, contact the previous owner to see how he remedied these problems.
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The previous owner is a retard and denies ever having any problems with the stalling....he is next to useless.

 

It ONLY puffs black when vtec engages.. not when it starts, or throughout the course of regular driving. (If that helps)

I have asked the previous owner, unfortunately, he claims he didnt have any problems, which I find hilarious because the stalling happened THE DAY OFF the purchase *rolls eyes* (it actually stalled out when it was in the shop at my work, and he denied it - Ya ya I know buyer beware). I know everthing can be fixed, so I dont really care, I just wished he would have been honest and gave me a heads up.

 

Hey MissITR;

I'm assuming you have alot of black carb deposit on your rear bumper, I do aswell.. I think I can speak for the 99%+ of us actually. Its running rich.

My last R burnt alot of Oil, It smelled awful, and would leave a blue trail dust and sufficated half the poor people driving behind me.. hehehhe

My current R burns oil aswell (Other R..) I get tiny buildup of black carb on my rear, YET i don't get any smoke, or blue clouds anymore. I guess its not as excessive as the last ones motor, but... I still do burn about a litre every 1500kms..or 1000... since i drive hard.

Bite the bullet! welcome to R land! B-series baby!

 

good luck jillian...

 

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Unfortunatly, there are many people out there selling cars is not honest. I'm sure he was aware of the problem which was the reason for selling it. Being honest about the problem would result in a price drop.

But anyways, good luck with your problem. There are great people in this community who can offer helpful information.

 

I wonder if the FPR is messed up and so there is too much fuel being dumped which is causing the black out the exhaust? Anyone else see that being the reason?

 

There are definitely some problems there, though I can't offer a suggestion for any of them. The only thing I can say with surity is that the bouncing tach thing is NOT common of ITRs. I've never heard of that happening with anyone's ITR for that matter. I'd find a new mechanic.

 

lucky miss itr.. living in white rock...

itr looks as clean as mine hehe

maybe u r having this problems cuz the owner before storaged the car for too long?

or some secret things u dunno bout+_+ hehe

maybe ur itr breathing in too much salt from the ocean or somethin

i dunnow

 

1. I had the same problem in my old wrangler..nothing wrong with the caR just a electrical issue... should be a easy fix.

2. All hondas kinda shoot out some smoke when vtec engages....but you ARE burning more oil that you should from the sound of it. But it doesn't sound like a immediate problem. How much oil are you burning every 3000 miles?

3. Sounds like a fuel problem...pump the gas pedal some before starting it and let us know how it goes.

 

1) In general all Honda's have an Ignition Control Module problem. I'm currently in the process of replacing mine now as my tach needle dances around every now and then. From what I understand it is more appearant at higher RPM's.

2) As Tootsie said, when your in full throttle and upper RPM ranges, it is common for the B-Series engines to let out a little puff of smoke. The problem could be what others have said. I'd simply monitor the oil loss closely and make a note of how much has burnt off from a fresh oil change to your next oil change.

3) The main relay has been known to go out on Integra's but it's highly unlikely that is the culprit IMO. Because of problem #1 it kind of sounds to me like your having distributor issues. Check the condition of the points inside the distributor cap and the condition of the rotor. Use a multi-meter and test the components of the distributor via the Helms manual to see if everything is within specifications. Replace as needed.

 

I wouldnt have much of a black deposit on my rear bumper because it only does it in vtec, not all the time u know? And also, since im literally **** retentive about cleanlieness, I probably would have washed it before it had a chance to build up LOL.

The mechanic I have is AMAZING, and his friend works for Honda and he said when the ITRs first came out, there were a ton of them that needed either the coil replaced or the whole cluster, because many did the weird guage thing.

Thanks so much for all the info, Im going to keep an eye on how much oil I burn.. do you think its just getting too much fuel? Everyone Ive talked to outside of HT thinks its just running rich.. how do you solve that?

Jillian.

 

wow... its amazing how many people chimed in to help this "young LADY"

.... bunch of leg humpers

 

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never thot the owner is a girl..
i assumed missITR as Lady ITR not the owner.
and i'd be sad if a lady drives an ITR cuz she will screw it up someday lol
especially if its an asian girl in vancouver. lol

 

whats done to the car performance wise?

 

Yes I AM a girl and I DO own this ITR, and no offence but if you dont have anything constructive to say maybe keep it to yourself next time, thanks.

And how would I screw this car up? Keep in mind that the previous owners were all male and look at what kind of condition the car is in now? And no Im not asian either.

I came on this board to get some help, if you want to flame me for being a girl to make yourself feel better about yourself, go ahead, I could really care less haha.

Back on topic.

 

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never thot the owner is a girl..
i assumed missITR as Lady ITR not the owner.
and i'd be sad if a lady drives an ITR cuz she will screw it up someday lol
especially if its an asian girl in vancouver. lol
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Excuse me??? She keeps all of her cars in very GREAT shape and takes EXTREMELY GREAT care of her cars...probably better than half of you guys. Don't make a stupid comment like that just cause she is a chick driving a sweet car.

And no she is not Asian.

 

for keeping it real...

the tach jumping sounds like it's the ignitor...that's what the probable cause is for when crxs do it...

with weak spark couldnt this also make the car run rich and get black smoke?