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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Default How to tell if a motor is blown!?

How would someone check if a motor is blown without installing it in a car. Is there a way to visually inspect and check for play....and where would i check.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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any huge gaping holes in the block

also you could get an VERY ROUGH guesstimate as to the health of the compress give her spin of the crank and there are 3 stiff parts well then you might have something wrong with a cyclinder.

you can always pull the head
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Pull the head and pull the oil pan
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Do a compression and leakdown test. Those should tell you the working order of the motor.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do a compression and leakdown test. Those should tell you the working order of the motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Compression test....so im gonna crank the expletive out of it with my hands for that....would it be accurate.

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any way to tell For rod knock/any bottom end damage. I know leakdown will tell piston rings, but what about crank.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Attach the starter to it and crank it with some jumper cables to do the tests.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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****, you should get a harness, ecu and a gas can and start the bitch up. jk
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by noz79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Attach the starter to it and crank it with some jumper cables to do the tests. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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leakdown
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by noz79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Attach the starter to it and crank it with some jumper cables to do the tests. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good idea. Ill have my buddy hold the engine steady on my floor while i hold the starter up to it with my hands.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good idea. Ill have my buddy hold the engine steady on my floor while i hold the starter up to it with my hands.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are trying to help. dont be a dick.

if you have enough common sense, do what i did.

use a tow strap and strap the motor to something solid. see: tree.
jump the starter. battery works.
boom. you can do a compression test.

or just do a leakdown. doesnt matter if its in or out of the car.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .john &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are trying to help. dont be a dick.

if you have enough common sense, do what i did.

use a tow strap and strap the motor to something solid. see: tree.
jump the starter. battery works.
boom. you can do a compression test.

or just do a leakdown. doesnt matter if its in or out of the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How do i bolt the starter to the motor if the tranny is not attatched and there is no flywheel attached?
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do i bolt the starter to the motor if the tranny is not attatched and there is no flywheel attached?</TD></TR></TABLE>

OH yea.. Uhhhhhh.. Thats a good question.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do i bolt the starter to the motor if the tranny is not attatched and there is no flywheel attached?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you never said that.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How do i bolt the starter to the motor if the tranny is not attatched and there is no flywheel attached?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, it's not our fault you neglected to mention that.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Open her up.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slamaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Open her up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
and look for what
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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look for metal parts that shouldnt be there like part of a valve, dings in the piston or cylinder walls, or maybe a broken rod.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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damn...Im getting an LS this weekend, and was going to ask the same damn question on how the hell you people get motors off of others.

To me its too much of a hassel to pull head and crap off a motor that "was running".
Now that you are satisfied. Now might as well get a new Head-gasket, timing belt, head bolts, and a damn water pump. Oh and not to forget valve-cover and oil pan gasket and junk. Thats if the seller happens to have an engine stand....

I myself got screwed a few times....especially with trannies. ****
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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its simple. DO A LEAKDOWN TEST.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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just buy a running motor guy
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .john &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its simple. DO A LEAKDOWN TEST. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you heard the man
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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yeah. not like i know what im talking about.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kevmugen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pull the head and pull the oil pan </TD></TR></TABLE>

Best advice in the thread short of buying a working motor.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LowSlow93Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best advice in the thread short of buying a working motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ill do that, What do i need to look for. Otherwise ill just be staring at it
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crawlin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look for metal parts that shouldnt be there like part of a valve, dings in the piston or cylinder walls, or maybe a broken rod.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, but how would i know if it had Rod knock, piston slap, or something fucked up in the crank.
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