Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off

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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Default Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off

I bought a mallot/hammer (rubber) to try and hammer it off like people on HT suggested but its not working. I asked for a screw to push push off the drum but the employee said it should be premently in the holes. It's not in the hole so I need to buy it. What hell size screw am I looking for and what tool do I need to use this screw?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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I use a 5lb sledge and a prybar (bang/pry-spin-bang/pry-spin-bang/pry-spin....)
it will pop off eventually.

Dont wear kid gloves either.
Make that bitch listen to ya
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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It's a pain, mainly because the pads have probably worn a groove into the drum, mine did. The only way I did it successfuly was to use the screw method to push the drum off. They won't get permanently stuck in the drum, don't know why someone told you that.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off (Seatown)

It took me awhile to get the drums off the first time I did it. My mistake was not hitting them hard enough.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off (jason_alt)

Is the ebrake down?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off (red_ef_hatch)

^nope I had the e-brake up, could that be the problem?


Modified by Seatown at 9:50 PM 10/2/2006
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Its an 8mm bolt hole. Get two from the hardware store and thread them in a little at a time. Use penetrating oil like WD40 or AeroKroil if its rusty. Bang on the drum with your hammer as you crank down on the bolts. It will come off.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off (Seatown)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seatown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^nope I had the e-brake up, could that be the problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let it down, the brake shoes expand when you have the e-brake up.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Yep... if its pulled up you'll never get that drum off... even using the bolts and the hammer.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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^Okay so I got the damn drum off, thanks for the hint about the e-brake. How do I get the axle off(not sure if its a axle but with the 4 bolts thats holds the wheel off. I'ts in the way of me getting full access to the cylinder.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seatown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^Okay so I got the damn drum off, thanks for the hint about the e-brake. How do I get the axle off(not sure if its a axle but with the 4 bolts thats holds the wheel off. I'ts in the way of me getting full access to the cylinder.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't have an axle in the rear, do you mean the hub?

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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^Ya the hub, is it difficult to remove. SHould I just try and get at the wheel cylinder without taking if off?
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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its real easy to get the cylinder off, you dont need to take the hub off
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dang u had the e brake on? how long did u try to get the drum off with the e brak on? Thats pretty funny doode. Good Luck
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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More then likely the brack drum has a groove on the out edge causing you not to be able to get it off. There is access to the star wheel behind the shield, loosen that up and it should come off.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by red_ef_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the ebrake down?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's such a retarted thing to even think about, but I would have totally forgotten about it!

for me...
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Sadly, I enjoy working on drums. Wish you were local so I could help you out. Sounds like you're having some issues.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Okay people this Drum brake is not comming off (Seatown)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Seatown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^nope I had the e-brake up, could that be the problem?


Modified by Seatown at 9:50 PM 10/2/2006</TD></TR></TABLE> wow... u must really be a NOOB! rofl!!!!
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Is this all necessary just to replace the shoes? My e-brake doesn't work, and I need it to work to pass inspection. I tightened the cable all the way at the adjuster right by the e-brake itself, and it started to maybe have a little brake drag, not enough to hold the car though. So I think it needs new shoes, right?
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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im with you, i need an answer for this too
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GI8U2racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this all necessary just to replace the shoes? My e-brake doesn't work, and I need it to work to pass inspection. I tightened the cable all the way at the adjuster right by the e-brake itself, and it started to maybe have a little brake drag, not enough to hold the car though. So I think it needs new shoes, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is all what necessary ? Yes it sounds like you need new shoes

Take of wheel
Take of drum ( this part could take a while if you are new to this )
Take of shoes ( take one side off at a time so you can look at the other side )
Put shoes on ( hard part unless you are good working with brake tools )
Adjust star wheel so there is drag on the wheel
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Good with brake tools? What tools are needed? Sorry for the noob questions, I'm used to discs
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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oh god.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GI8U2racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good with brake tools? What tools are needed? Sorry for the noob questions, I'm used to discs</TD></TR></TABLE>

Look up spring tool, on like sears.com . The tool is not the easiest to use.
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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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side-cutters
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