Calling out Justa_Old_DC2 bad seller
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Calling out Justa_Old_DC2 bad seller
see this thread http://www.hondamarketplace.co...61335
Purchased it and called him same day that bov is not working. He is insisting it being my fault, as seen by our pm conversations
10:04 PM 9/26/2006) bluebird: Ill pick it up on saturday
(12:16 AM 9/27/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: will do. call me
(4:25 PM 9/29/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: still on for the pick up tomorrow?
(5:47 PM 9/29/2006) bluebird: yup...
(9:35 PM 9/29/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: alrighjt give me a call
(7:36 AM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: what time did you have in mind?
(6:22 PM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: hey, i dont know what went wrong. It was working perfectly when i took it off. The valve opened and closed just like it should have. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that BOV, the only reason i got rid of it was to change the sound of my BOV. If that BOV was as loud as it was at 7 lbs as much as it was at 15 lb's i would have kept it. Im no scammer, check my feedback on TI http://www.team-integra.net/se...ger77 I also have positive feedback on ebay. I never sell stuff thats broken.
(9:04 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: Im not calling you a scammer. I simply want the bov to work man. I have a perfectly working blitz on there now I just wanted yours because it is a newer model. I mean if it does not work then a refund is in order do you not agree?
(9:23 PM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: thats the thing, the BOV was working perfectly before I gave it to you. There was nothing wrong with it before i took it off my car.
(9:40 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: All I did was come home. Unbolt the other bov. Bolt yours up and add the vaccum feed. Its pretty simple process . Are you saying I dont know how to install a simple bov? Ive done it plenty of times. You are welcome to come and inspect if you wish , but I am telling you based on what I see.
(9:41 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: Its not like Im telling you about it 10 days or so after the fact. This is the same day
(9:45 PM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: Im pretty sure you know how to install a BOV, what I'm saying is I sold you a 100% fully functional item. If there was anything wrong it it in the first place, then i would have never sold it to anyone. I do not do business that way.
(9:52 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: Im sure you dont... Ill try tomorrow to see if I can get it to work. But if it does not work what next?
(8:54 AM 10/1/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: well, im not sure whats next after that. From my point of view, you have to understand, I took out a perfectly working BOV and sold it yo you knowing it was working in the first place, and If I refund you, then I get stuck with what was a working BOV when I gave it to you, to what you claim is a non-working BOV. I understand it from your point of view that you as the buyer, want a working item, which is exactly what I sold you. I have never once had a complaint about ANY of the items that I've ever sold to anyone. If that BOv didn't work in the first place, i would have NEVER sold to anyone. I have never scammed anyone with misleading items nor have I ever neglected to describe a problem with that item. The only reason I have a problem refunding you money is because I sold you a working item. If i was in the wrong, you would have never seen that BOV for sale, thats not how i conduct business.If I refund you, I'm left with a BOv that was working prior to handing it to you, to a BOv that you claim is broken.
(2:03 PM 10/1/2006) bluebird: So what are you trying to say? Its my fault the bov no longer works? I have tried again and the thing just does not open. So I think a refund is in order. I dont think you see my point. I did not take a long *** drive to pomona so I can mess up your bov . I took a long *** drive to pomona to purchase something that works. If the bov worked you would not be hearing from me. I dont work that way. I would love for it to just plug in and work . I would be a happy man. But its not working. plain and simple.
(2:39 PM 10/1/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: All I an say is check the nut and the allen bolt screw at the top and check the vacum lines again. I promised you a working BOV, which is what I sold you, my roomates will verify that it was working that morning as well because they rode with me while running my errands. Why it doesnt function on your car is beyond me but i know that that BOV is working.
(2:48 PM 10/1/2006) bluebird: I did. I set it at its softest and it is still not opening up. I am becoming quite aggrevated with it. If you want to come over and see for yourself you are welcome to it. Shat do your roomates have to do with the deal? Im speaking of what is on my car right now and its installed. I am running a Sr20det if you are curious in any way.
(2:57 PM 10/1/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: let me call my buddy, hes a mechanic who owns his own shop and knows more about nissan engines than i do. Hes not open until monday but ill try to find out any info I can. I have no more mins on my phone right now so i have to use my work phone. But I'll get back to you with PM as far as what elese you can check. That BOV is working, I just have a hunch you connected something up wrong or you missed a connection somewhere.
(3:06 PM 10/1/2006) bluebird: What connections? there is only one vaccum feed and two bolts? Talk to your buddy and get back to me on monday
(1:32 PM 10/2/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: he said your vacum line is the problem. Hes the one who put that BOV on my car so he would know, and he said theres no reason why it should have stopped working out of the blue. He said if it worked on my car and I gave it to you working, then you made an error somewhere in putting it on if its not working for you. He told me to tell you to check your vacum lines again.
(1:34 PM 10/2/2006) bluebird: I only have one vaccum line running to the bov. answer this question. If my old Blitz is working with the exact same vaccum source why is mine opening and yours is not? My hks ssqv opens up. Why not yours?
(2:34 PM 10/2/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: no idea, but i know that the BOV I gave you works. i was able to use it the day you picked it up. I never had problems with that BOV.
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Purchased it and called him same day that bov is not working. He is insisting it being my fault, as seen by our pm conversations
10:04 PM 9/26/2006) bluebird: Ill pick it up on saturday
(12:16 AM 9/27/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: will do. call me
(4:25 PM 9/29/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: still on for the pick up tomorrow?
(5:47 PM 9/29/2006) bluebird: yup...
(9:35 PM 9/29/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: alrighjt give me a call
(7:36 AM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: what time did you have in mind?
(6:22 PM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: hey, i dont know what went wrong. It was working perfectly when i took it off. The valve opened and closed just like it should have. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that BOV, the only reason i got rid of it was to change the sound of my BOV. If that BOV was as loud as it was at 7 lbs as much as it was at 15 lb's i would have kept it. Im no scammer, check my feedback on TI http://www.team-integra.net/se...ger77 I also have positive feedback on ebay. I never sell stuff thats broken.
(9:04 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: Im not calling you a scammer. I simply want the bov to work man. I have a perfectly working blitz on there now I just wanted yours because it is a newer model. I mean if it does not work then a refund is in order do you not agree?
(9:23 PM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: thats the thing, the BOV was working perfectly before I gave it to you. There was nothing wrong with it before i took it off my car.
(9:40 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: All I did was come home. Unbolt the other bov. Bolt yours up and add the vaccum feed. Its pretty simple process . Are you saying I dont know how to install a simple bov? Ive done it plenty of times. You are welcome to come and inspect if you wish , but I am telling you based on what I see.
(9:41 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: Its not like Im telling you about it 10 days or so after the fact. This is the same day
(9:45 PM 9/30/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: Im pretty sure you know how to install a BOV, what I'm saying is I sold you a 100% fully functional item. If there was anything wrong it it in the first place, then i would have never sold it to anyone. I do not do business that way.
(9:52 PM 9/30/2006) bluebird: Im sure you dont... Ill try tomorrow to see if I can get it to work. But if it does not work what next?
(8:54 AM 10/1/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: well, im not sure whats next after that. From my point of view, you have to understand, I took out a perfectly working BOV and sold it yo you knowing it was working in the first place, and If I refund you, then I get stuck with what was a working BOV when I gave it to you, to what you claim is a non-working BOV. I understand it from your point of view that you as the buyer, want a working item, which is exactly what I sold you. I have never once had a complaint about ANY of the items that I've ever sold to anyone. If that BOv didn't work in the first place, i would have NEVER sold to anyone. I have never scammed anyone with misleading items nor have I ever neglected to describe a problem with that item. The only reason I have a problem refunding you money is because I sold you a working item. If i was in the wrong, you would have never seen that BOV for sale, thats not how i conduct business.If I refund you, I'm left with a BOv that was working prior to handing it to you, to a BOv that you claim is broken.
(2:03 PM 10/1/2006) bluebird: So what are you trying to say? Its my fault the bov no longer works? I have tried again and the thing just does not open. So I think a refund is in order. I dont think you see my point. I did not take a long *** drive to pomona so I can mess up your bov . I took a long *** drive to pomona to purchase something that works. If the bov worked you would not be hearing from me. I dont work that way. I would love for it to just plug in and work . I would be a happy man. But its not working. plain and simple.
(2:39 PM 10/1/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: All I an say is check the nut and the allen bolt screw at the top and check the vacum lines again. I promised you a working BOV, which is what I sold you, my roomates will verify that it was working that morning as well because they rode with me while running my errands. Why it doesnt function on your car is beyond me but i know that that BOV is working.
(2:48 PM 10/1/2006) bluebird: I did. I set it at its softest and it is still not opening up. I am becoming quite aggrevated with it. If you want to come over and see for yourself you are welcome to it. Shat do your roomates have to do with the deal? Im speaking of what is on my car right now and its installed. I am running a Sr20det if you are curious in any way.
(2:57 PM 10/1/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: let me call my buddy, hes a mechanic who owns his own shop and knows more about nissan engines than i do. Hes not open until monday but ill try to find out any info I can. I have no more mins on my phone right now so i have to use my work phone. But I'll get back to you with PM as far as what elese you can check. That BOV is working, I just have a hunch you connected something up wrong or you missed a connection somewhere.
(3:06 PM 10/1/2006) bluebird: What connections? there is only one vaccum feed and two bolts? Talk to your buddy and get back to me on monday
(1:32 PM 10/2/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: he said your vacum line is the problem. Hes the one who put that BOV on my car so he would know, and he said theres no reason why it should have stopped working out of the blue. He said if it worked on my car and I gave it to you working, then you made an error somewhere in putting it on if its not working for you. He told me to tell you to check your vacum lines again.
(1:34 PM 10/2/2006) bluebird: I only have one vaccum line running to the bov. answer this question. If my old Blitz is working with the exact same vaccum source why is mine opening and yours is not? My hks ssqv opens up. Why not yours?
(2:34 PM 10/2/2006) Justa_Old_DC2: no idea, but i know that the BOV I gave you works. i was able to use it the day you picked it up. I never had problems with that BOV.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thaJooze »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a refund IS in order! bump for you</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks... Just seems like the right thing know what I mean. Its not like im calling dude 3 weeks later saying his bov is no good
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if he would answer a phone call he would know that I plan on opening the valve to see if it needs anything. But I dont want to do it without him knowing
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Already told you how I felt about it, go ahead and post the conversation for everyone to see. I told you I sold you a working BOV, I never sell busted items, never have and never will. Keep bumping this thread if you want, but thats end of story, bottom line is I sold you a WORKING BOV. Call me scammer, liar, and whatever else you want, I know what I sold you, and If I tried to scam you I wouldnt have responded back to you after selling you what you claim is a "broken" BOV. BTW feel free to open the BOV and inspect.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justa_Old_DC2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Already told you how I felt about it, go ahead and post the conversation for everyone to see. I told you I sold you a working BOV, I never sell busted items, never have and never will. Keep bumping this thread if you want, but thats end of story, bottom line is I sold you a WORKING BOV. Call me scammer, liar, and whatever else you want, I know what I sold you, and If I tried to scam you I wouldnt have responded back to you after selling you what you claim is a "broken" BOV. BTW feel free to open the BOV and inspect.
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You really think your opinion matters? or how you feel? I could not give a expletive. I will open this piece of **** you sold me. Am I going to cry about $110 bucks. **** no. Will your rep take a hit . You will be the judge. You are the worst type of ******* people to deal with on HT. If I sold some **** and they called me the next day that my **** was not working I would not only offer a refund but offer my assistance to see if I could figure out what went wrong.
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You really think your opinion matters? or how you feel? I could not give a expletive. I will open this piece of **** you sold me. Am I going to cry about $110 bucks. **** no. Will your rep take a hit . You will be the judge. You are the worst type of ******* people to deal with on HT. If I sold some **** and they called me the next day that my **** was not working I would not only offer a refund but offer my assistance to see if I could figure out what went wrong.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluebird »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You really think your opinion matters? or how you feel? I could not give a expletive. I will open this piece of **** you sold me. Am I going to cry about $110 bucks. **** no. Will your rep take a hit . You will be the judge. You are the worst type of ******* people to deal with on HT. If I sold some **** and they called me the next day that my **** was not working I would not only offer a refund but offer my assistance to see if I could figure out what went wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>
^^that's the truth right there. bluebird sold me a motor and it had a busted dizzy. called him up and he offered a replacement dizzy ASAP. now THAT's an awesome seller.
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You really think your opinion matters? or how you feel? I could not give a expletive. I will open this piece of **** you sold me. Am I going to cry about $110 bucks. **** no. Will your rep take a hit . You will be the judge. You are the worst type of ******* people to deal with on HT. If I sold some **** and they called me the next day that my **** was not working I would not only offer a refund but offer my assistance to see if I could figure out what went wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>
^^that's the truth right there. bluebird sold me a motor and it had a busted dizzy. called him up and he offered a replacement dizzy ASAP. now THAT's an awesome seller.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b0mb3rm2n »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sometimes money isn't really the issue, its respect and the principles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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There is no direct evidence stating who is at fault for a malfunctioning product. I believe that the seller should make a great conscious effort for accomadating to the buyer's dilemma. Possibly meeting up half-way to view the actual product, the buyer in-person shows their installation process of the product, the seller having a chance to point out or refute on how the product should be installed, if the seller does not install it properly in the buyer's view, then see if the buyer knows a way right there to fix the solution, if not, than possibly discuss an alternative, like testing out the product on the buyer's car to confirm proper function or not. If it is not functioning on the buyer's and seller's car than a possibly refund can be discussed. For future references possibly the buyer is not liable for product if he emphasizes "SOLD AS IS", or states that certain procedure done to the product after seller takes possession would disqualify a form of compensation (refund). Than after that it is up to the buyer to take the product in those condition/criteria. Maybe you guys can settle for a compromise, a half-refund maybe?, and just move on and do not do business with each other again. And yes, people do judge, but it is up to the people to believe whom ever. But all of this is useless if the seller does not make an effort at all to TRY to make the buyer at ease because he is not responding right away to a PM or phone call or making BS excuses. Because whether 10 dollars is involved or 100's or 1000's of dollars involved... a lot of all of this is just about respect and principles.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sickntired »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is no direct evidence stating who is at fault for a malfunctioning product. I believe that the seller should make a great conscious effort for accomadating to the buyer's dilemma. Possibly meeting up half-way to view the actual product, the buyer in-person shows their installation process of the product, the seller having a chance to point out or refute on how the product should be installed, if the seller does not install it properly in the buyer's view, then see if the buyer knows a way right there to fix the solution, if not, than possibly discuss an alternative, like testing out the product on the buyer's car to confirm proper function or not. If it is not functioning on the buyer's and seller's car than a possibly refund can be discussed. For future references possibly the buyer is not liable for product if he emphasizes "SOLD AS IS", or states that certain procedure done to the product after seller takes possession would disqualify a form of compensation (refund). Than after that it is up to the buyer to take the product in those condition/criteria. Maybe you guys can settle for a compromise, a half-refund maybe?, and just move on and do not do business with each other again. And yes, people do judge, but it is up to the people to believe whom ever. But all of this is useless if the seller does not make an effort at all to TRY to make the buyer at ease because he is not responding right away to a PM or phone call or making BS excuses. Because whether 10 dollars is involved or 100's or 1000's of dollars involved... a lot of all of this is just about respect and principles. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well said. I tried to get him to check out the car. Installation is not brain surgery on a blitz bov though. It is a two bolt flange and has a vacuum feed. Nothing hard. but I have offered to let him inspect it.. He is not cooperating.
well said. I tried to get him to check out the car. Installation is not brain surgery on a blitz bov though. It is a two bolt flange and has a vacuum feed. Nothing hard. but I have offered to let him inspect it.. He is not cooperating.
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bluebird seems like hes doing his best as a buyer to contact the seller (Justa_Old_DC2) to work out an agreement; but by the way Justa_old_Dc2 is responding, it seems like he doesnt really want to work anything out. Good luck guys trying to resolve this. I hope this matter doesn't exceed anything further then discussing it on the forum. I would hate to see one of you guys get arrested for Assault.
Good Luck!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b0mb3rm2n »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bluebird seems like hes doing his best as a buyer to contact the seller (Justa_Old_DC2) to work out an agreement; but by the way Justa_old_Dc2 is responding, it seems like he doesnt really want to work anything out. Good luck guys trying to resolve this. I hope this matter doesn't exceed anything further then discussing it on the forum. I would hate to see one of you guys get arrested for Assault.
Good Luck! </TD></TR></TABLE> Im a family man bro. There really is no reason for me to go get violent with this young man. That is not my way anymore. Plus my hands are registered and I would have consequences well beyond what I would want this to go to. I have calmed completely down and just want to resolve this civily. bump for a resolution
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</TD></TR></TABLE> Im a family man bro. There really is no reason for me to go get violent with this young man. That is not my way anymore. Plus my hands are registered and I would have consequences well beyond what I would want this to go to. I have calmed completely down and just want to resolve this civily. bump for a resolution
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluebird »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are the lamest of the ******* lame. Gtfo with that bullshit. You are lucky I dont just get off my *** and go Beat the **** out of you. But I know your bitch *** would probably just call the cops and be a little bitch... whatever </TD></TR></TABLE>
Crack the BOV open and see what it needs to work. I will see what I can buy to help you to get it to function...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluebird »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are the lamest of the ******* lame. Gtfo with that bullshit. You are lucky I dont just get off my *** and go Beat the **** out of you. But I know your bitch *** would probably just call the cops and be a little bitch... whatever
</TD></TR></TABLE>Crack the BOV open and see what it needs to work. I will see what I can buy to help you to get it to function...
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Crack the BOV open and see what it needs to work. I will see what I can buy to help you to get it to function...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Will do
Crack the BOV open and see what it needs to work. I will see what I can buy to help you to get it to function...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Will do
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update... opened up the valve and the piston walls have rust... signal auto told me to clean it up and lube it. So im going to clean it up and lube it. BTW signal says that happens when you remove it for a few weeks without use
