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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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Default 200 ITR Wheel Horspower? with bolt ons?

whats the WHP of 2000 ITR with AEM, JDM 4-1, and exhaust?
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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~170whp probably, give or take a few
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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170, maybe 175...
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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I say depends on stock form. But increase of 10whp peak at most.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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Ahhh the magic 200 WHP quest again????

Just FYI you will need a High Flow Cat and at least a 60mm or a 2 1/2" catback for this goal.

Oh and I dynoed 172 with just an intake and Header and HF cat... A catback would net me maybe 2-4HP so I could see the 175 WHP with JUST I/H & E.

Now, if you added a set of cam gears, adj. fpr, and VAFC and a few hours on the dyno with a wideband O2 and you may very well achieve 180 to 185 WHP...

I'll let you know when I go back for more tuning.

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Are you sure?
I say depends on stock form. But increase of 10whp peak at most.
If you use all hytech, you'd go broke but you might get a little more than 10. Maybe 15? Or am I dreaming?
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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ALOT has to do with the stock form of the car and it's performance from the dealer. My PY was NOT as strong as my current NBP. I would have been surprised that in the PY with the SAME mods that if it would have made 166 to 168 WHP.

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PS Don't JUST buy one name, It's like getting JUST MUGEN, silly. Shop wisely and see what works best for YOU and your applications. Educate yourself about the product and why it does what it does well. In my case Spoon fit my needs and did very well.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:53 PM
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george knighton went from 158->183?? around there..
jdm 4-1 with carsound and SMSP exhaust

25whp!! goood stuff.


[Modified by disordeR, 9:53 PM 5/1/2002]
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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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Three words: Tuning, tuning, tuning...

Not directed towards You or George but, it IS EXTREMELY neccessary for working an NA engine. The more tuning you do, the better gains you will recieve. No tuning=not nearly the potential of your car.

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Old May 1, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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oh chit! that much gain?? so with stock ITR cams etc....you can acheieve 180-185whp?


by the way, its 2000 not 200
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Old May 1, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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that dood that went from 153 to 18X was just an extreme case. you know the low of average, always throw the lowest and highest out. he might have had some tunning done as well, but i dont know, just saying. just dyno your hoptie and go form there.
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[QUOTE]ALOT has to do with the stock form of the car and it's performance from the dealer. My PY was NOT as strong as my current NBP. I would have been surprised that in the PY with the SAME mods that if it would have made 166 to 168 WHP.
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I always knew about them black itrs
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I have a 2000 Integra Type-R With a AEM ColdAirIntake, JDM 4-1 Headers, Thermal 3" Exhaust with a 3" Free Flow Cat, and CAM Gears and had it tuned and i Dyno'd at 201 WHP
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I have a 2000 Integra Type-R With a AEM ColdAirIntake, JDM 4-1 Headers, Thermal 3" Exhaust with a 3" Free Flow Cat, and CAM Gears and had it tuned and i Dyno'd at 201 WHP
Honestly, that is a little much, i can see it with an SMS, HyTech, or Toda header, but seriously, with a JDM 4-1? What kind of dyno was it on and is that figure of 201 whp or flywheel HP? Not calling BS, just would like some more facts.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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It Was Measured at the wheels. yes the headers are JDM 4-1. but you also have to realize that i dyno'd it 3 time to get it tuned at maximum power it is true what 1GreyTeg said that you can have the same stuff on two different cars and gain power but tune it and you can gain more out of it.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 03:49 AM
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I have a 2000 Integra Type-R With a AEM ColdAirIntake, JDM 4-1 Headers, Thermal 3" Exhaust with a 3" Free Flow Cat, and CAM Gears and had it tuned and i Dyno'd at 201 WHP
Let's see a graph.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 04:38 AM
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3" Thermal exhaust. You going to the "darkside"?
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Old May 2, 2002 | 05:40 AM
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I have a 2000 Integra Type-R With a AEM ColdAirIntake, JDM 4-1 Headers, Thermal 3" Exhaust with a 3" Free Flow Cat, and CAM Gears and had it tuned and i Dyno'd at 201 WHP
No way in hell with just those mods! Where did you dyno? Show us the graph.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 05:48 AM
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ALOT has to do with the stock form of the car and it's performance from the dealer. My PY was NOT as strong as my current NBP. I would have been surprised that in the PY with the SAME mods that if it would have made 166 to 168 WHP.

A.

PS Don't JUST buy one name, It's like getting JUST MUGEN, silly. Shop wisely and see what works best for YOU and your applications. Educate yourself about the product and why it does what it does well. In my case Spoon fit my needs and did very well.
I agree with Anton on this one. I had a '98 ITR a couple years back. And the car had these mods: Hollow cat (CEL glowing), HKS mini dragger axle-back, MSD wires, DC SRI, timing advance 18 deg, and Nitto drag radials. The car ran 14 flat @ 99 all day long. No question about it, my '00 ITR is about 4-5 tenths behind it with similar mods (2.25 test pipe, 5 Zigen Fireball cat-back, AEM CAI, etc.). My '98 came with a "wednsday motor" in it.
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My '00 ITR with....

Comptech Icebox
JDM OEM header
SMSP exhaust, including Carsound cat
18 degrees initial spark advance
Recent valve adjustment, tight

On a Dynojet: 182.4 HP

Completely stock on a Dynojet was 158 HP.


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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:03 AM
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<u> i Dyno'd at 201 WHP</u>

Honestly, that is a little much, i can see it with an SMS, HyTech, or Toda header, but seriously, with a JDM 4-1?

Ask Sakai about it. He's the expert with tuning via air/fuel and cam timing.

I do not know Sakai personally, but I have followed his progress since I've owned my ITR, and I know that he'd be able to tell you immediately whether it's possible with ITR stock cams.
I'm sure it's possible with stock cams but with alot more mods then listed.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:11 AM
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What else would he need? VAFC or something similar?

I've noticed that I could get more HP, probably, with my setup.

At 19 initial advance, the computer's dumping a lot of fuel in some RPM ranges. I guess maybe the computer over reacts to keep from burning a valve or something.

Ported head, more compression and a beast *** header and I could see it. Mike K is just about there with those mods. Vafc will give you roughly 5 hp up top depending if you running super rich or not.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:17 AM
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Default Re: 200 ITR Wheel Horspower? with bolt ons? (George Knighton)

"When you bump the timing to max, don't all ITR run very rich?"

I didn't see any difference in fuel when I tested timing on the dyno. My car was pretty rich from 7500 and up when I had the JDM 4-1 but ran lean from 5800 to 6500.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 06:58 AM
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When you bump the timing to max, don't all ITR run very rich?

Mine's so rich it won't even pass emissions with the timing at where I normally run it.
Most Honda with advance timing with I/H/E will run rich and won't pass emissions. You have to set the timing back to stock and have the cat really hot before going to the testing.

e.g. Neo with JDM 4-1, c.s. cat + smsp exhaust + 18deg adv. timing didn't pass the first time around... he set the timing back to 16 and passed.
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