Well.......after the car dynoed 460whp on pump gas i started noticing the overflow filling up with coolant, aka blown hg, drove the car like that for a bit and probably made the situation worse. When we did the hg after the new setup we always spray hylomar on the hg for sealing and when the hg blew i got all into the engine and turned orange, originally blue in color. Tell me what you guys think about this.





I guess im just wondering if that did any kind of damage to the engine...this **** was piled up on top some of the pistons but i cleaned some of it off before i took the pics. The car was also running like **** cuz this stuff was all over the plugs.
Thanks guys
Ryan

 

were you running water instead of antifreeze? that looks like rust.

 

I was running coolant/water mix but there wasnt very much antifreeze in it due the overflow constantly fillin up with crap looking water.

 

that doesn't look too good...

Good luck dealing with it man hopefully it isn't too bad cash wise

 

doesnt look to bad. throw a new head gasket in and see what happens. thats what i would do. good luck with everything!!!

 

brake clean what you can and run it...

 

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i personally wouldnt touch brake clean to an assembled motor, if i were you id reassemble and do a coolant flush on it to get everything out of the coolant jackets... and next time i wouldnt use that **** for extra sealing, either use copper spray or a normal stock headgasket

do you know why you blew a hg, id also figure that out before you throw the motor back together

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i personally wouldnt touch brake clean to an assembled motor, if i were you id reassemble and do a coolant flush on it to get everything out of the coolant jackets... and next time i wouldnt use that **** for extra sealing, either use copper spray or a normal stock headgasket

do you know why you blew a hg, id also figure that out before you throw the motor back together</TD></TR></TABLE>

what head studs are you running? if theyre kinda old then i would invest in a new set.

 

the biggest thing you have to worry about that stuff spreading is to the water pump, thermostat, and in some of the head passages. i have had to clean up a mess like that before on a friends motor, it wasnt too bad, just time consuming

i would pull the thermostat and see if it is lodged in there as well, and if it is, swap out the water pump, cause it probably in there too then

 

If i were you i'd spray the hell out of it with wd40 not brake cleaner. And the antifreeze passage blow it with a compressor get all that crap out, slap a new head gasket torque it down and get a a few gallons of antifreeze let it go through the system.

 

try and figure out why the headgasket went (ie. thermo, water pump, any blockages in coolant system (most likely that extra seal ****). Then, if nothing serious, put it back together with OEM gasket/copper sprayed gasket, and do a nice coolant flush or two and see where it gets you. Do you have any information on this "sure seal" stuff youre talking about??

 

Thanks for all the good advice fellas. My plan was to just throw a new hg on it and try it but i am going to check the thermostat housing for clogging. The old turbo setup that made 460whp on pump is up for sale and im making a custom top mount, twin wg, gt40r setup goin on it next so everything needs to be squared away for that. The hg blew cuz i custom made my ramhorn at my other job and boosted it before retuning and it obviously went lean, dumbass!!! I know better too.
Thanks guys

 

btw, the magic sealant is called hylomar. Its dodges sealant they use for hg's.

 

ah hah! theres the whole entire reason!!! ******* dodge.

good luck with it man

 

doesnt look too bad. i would drain the block and see if theres a way you can rinse the coolant jackets out. then id put it back together and do a coolant flush not too long afterward. should turn out ok

 

make sure your head isnt warped i had the same problem with the coolant overflow filling up and found out that my head was warped now its fixed and doesnt fill anymore

 

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I've built many engines in my day for various applications. I have never sprayed a headgasket prior to installation and never will. There is no need to, it should seal correctly without the crap. If it doesn't, something is wrong with the head/block surfaces.

 

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Thanks guys</TD></TR></TABLE>

The last 6 times you blew the motor, I keep telling you the same thing and you keep getting pissed telling me your not dumb and know better.
Sorry to say it dude, but you keep doing it to yourself.
IMO, if you keep the car, let someone else build it and tune it and play with it once its done by someone else.

As far as getting that **** out. I would deff flush it a couple times and work as much of it out as possible. Check the thermostat and check the waterpump for sure.
If those are the same studs as the last how ever many builds you are on now, I would replace those too, just for peace of mind.
Sorry to be soo blunt, but hopefully one day you will take the advise of the people you ask for it from.

 

Pete you're an *******...i would never let anyone touch my car. For one, I dont trust anyone else and two I dont have the $ for it. Its really ok cuz now its getting a new setup and im continuing to learn. Not to mention I dont have the $ to pay for the insurance right now anyways cuz im broke!! Give me a call sometime mang you fell off the face of the planet....

 

IM just trying to help you to keep from dumping money into it.
What is common between all these blown motors?
You and Shawn doing all the work , and you not listening to the advise you ask for.

That is why I fell off the face of the earth. You call and ask me for help and then dont listen to me anyway. its a waste of breath.
I realized after my trip there, my words were falling on deaf ears.

Sorry to not sugar coat things for you, but thats how I am.

 

all i see is rust there is no reason to get all worried and spray all this **** on it just run clean antifreeze and keep it changed often if you notice it getting rusty. an engine rusting is caused by lack of antifreeze or lack of changing it. i've seen it a thousand times with frickin people that dont keep up with maintenance but it wont harm anything.

and i dont believe in trying to improve what honda design's. they dont spray sealer on it i dont either.

 

i dont think that hylomar got into your engine.

Have you seen hylomar? Its a super-thin substance, its doesnt even buildup muchon the gasket when you apply it. that **** in your engine is something else.

I have used hylomar/copper spray on all my headgaskets for the last 2 engine builds. Even when the gasket blows the hylomar doesnt get all over everything - it stays on the headgasket.

Maybe you just put a rediculous amount on? I use like 2-3 light coats per side, let tack up for 15min, then install gasket.

 

That is rust. Why is everyone getting their panties in a bunch? Try to clean it off as best you can--you are going to not believe this--but a mixture of blackstrap molasses and water eats rust--you could make a mixture like that and pour some around your water jackets--just don't let it sit too long because it apparently eats aluminum. I am serious.

 

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Agreed. You have the head off, strip it down and get it resurfaced and hot tanked. Slap on new seals and put all the crap back in it. If you have a precision straight egde you can check it to see if its still within spec.

Sounds like you've gone thru a few rebuilds, time to change out the head studs, only like $110. Golden Eagle, ARP, etc.