Blown motor... don't let your wife borrow your caR
So I get my car back after the wife had been driving it for the last few weeks and it's making an odd noise. I check the oil and it has none. I've always stressed the importance of checking the oil to her and she doesn't get it. I know it burns a bit of oil from normal driving but didn't realize how many miles she put on it. It sounds like a spun bearing... whack whack whack near the bottom rear of the motor. It was due for an oil change anyway and then she drives the hell outta it. I replaced the missing oil and it didn't help whatsoever.
So now I'm thinking of a decent rebuild with lowered compression so I can put teh charger in around the 11lb range. Anyone wanna chime in with considerations on the rebuild. Obviously _______ (<----- insert hammer icon here) me for not daily checking the oil. I guess you learn the hard way.
I'm considering pulling the motor myself and attempting (with some professional assistance) the rebuild. I have some experience with motor building but by no means am I a professional. So wish my luck. Hopefully it'll be up for me by Expo 7.
Cliff notes...
Wife borrows car... I don't keep an eye on oil levels... spun bearing.
Modified by dsav4shawn at 5:40 PM 10/1/2006
So now I'm thinking of a decent rebuild with lowered compression so I can put teh charger in around the 11lb range. Anyone wanna chime in with considerations on the rebuild. Obviously _______ (<----- insert hammer icon here) me for not daily checking the oil. I guess you learn the hard way.
I'm considering pulling the motor myself and attempting (with some professional assistance) the rebuild. I have some experience with motor building but by no means am I a professional. So wish my luck. Hopefully it'll be up for me by Expo 7.
Cliff notes...
Wife borrows car... I don't keep an eye on oil levels... spun bearing.
Modified by dsav4shawn at 5:40 PM 10/1/2006
Oye sorry to hear that, best of luck on the rebuild! Maybe you should have the wife do some of the work, it'll help drive home how important it is to check the oil
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr1137 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man, that sux. if you have the money put a k-series in there and leave it stock. it will be quick and reliable.
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I wonder if a J35 motor will fit....
j/k -I'll just fix this 1.8 liter and be happy again.
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I wonder if a J35 motor will fit....
j/k -I'll just fix this 1.8 liter and be happy again.
i'd go absolutely apeshit if a wife of mine did that to my car
when you have all the bills for the parts and labour, stick them under her nose and tell her that it was her fault for not doing as she was told
when you have all the bills for the parts and labour, stick them under her nose and tell her that it was her fault for not doing as she was told
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd go absolutely apeshit if a wife of mine did that to my car
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Normally I would... but due to all the other issues in my life it really adds up to a "whatever". If you'd like the sad story (series of crappy events) then PM me.
I'll give you a taste of teh suck...
http://www.wavy.com/Global/sto...u45_5
but there is more...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you have all the bills for the parts and labour, stick them under her nose and tell her that it was her fault for not doing as she was told</TD></TR></TABLE>
My plan to punish her includes (but not limited to):
-working on the car Friday nights or on any night she has something planned for me.
-making excuses not to do things due to my broken car.
-"surprisingly" spending more money than budgeted fixing anything and everything I can find.
-gettting oil on things in the house so she'll have to clean it for awhile
-buying every tool I can think of.
-more to come....
but really I'm impotent in regards to the situation.
Modified by dsav4shawn at 5:17 AM 10/1/2006
Modified by dsav4shawn at 5:30 PM 10/1/2006
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Normally I would... but due to all the other issues in my life it really adds up to a "whatever". If you'd like the sad story (series of crappy events) then PM me.
I'll give you a taste of teh suck...
http://www.wavy.com/Global/sto...u45_5
but there is more...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you have all the bills for the parts and labour, stick them under her nose and tell her that it was her fault for not doing as she was told</TD></TR></TABLE>
My plan to punish her includes (but not limited to):
-working on the car Friday nights or on any night she has something planned for me.
-making excuses not to do things due to my broken car.
-"surprisingly" spending more money than budgeted fixing anything and everything I can find.
-gettting oil on things in the house so she'll have to clean it for awhile
-buying every tool I can think of.
-more to come....
but really I'm impotent in regards to the situation.
Modified by dsav4shawn at 5:17 AM 10/1/2006
Modified by dsav4shawn at 5:30 PM 10/1/2006
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My plan to punish her includes (but not limited to):
-working on the car Friday nights or on any night she has something planned for me.
-making excuses not to do things due to my broken car.
-"surprisingly" spending more money than budgeted fixing anything and everything I can find.
-gettting oil on things in the house so she'll have to clean it for awhile
-buying every tool I can think of.
-more to come....</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's your wife that blew up your car. Personally, I'd just let it go.
Besides, if you hold a grudge for that long you're being just as bad as a woman.
-working on the car Friday nights or on any night she has something planned for me.
-making excuses not to do things due to my broken car.
-"surprisingly" spending more money than budgeted fixing anything and everything I can find.
-gettting oil on things in the house so she'll have to clean it for awhile
-buying every tool I can think of.
-more to come....</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's your wife that blew up your car. Personally, I'd just let it go.

Besides, if you hold a grudge for that long you're being just as bad as a woman.
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It's your wife that blew up your car. Personally, I'd just let it go.
Besides, if you hold a grudge for that long you're being just as bad as a woman.
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I agree... I was just doing the typical vindictive male response for comedy routine. I'm just gonna fix it and love my family as always.
BTW... every ITR owner acts like a women in regards to their caRs. -muahahahahhaha
It's your wife that blew up your car. Personally, I'd just let it go.

Besides, if you hold a grudge for that long you're being just as bad as a woman.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I agree... I was just doing the typical vindictive male response for comedy routine. I'm just gonna fix it and love my family as always.
BTW... every ITR owner acts like a women in regards to their caRs. -muahahahahhaha
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My plan to punish her includes (but not limited to):
-working on the car Friday nights or on any night she has something planned for me.
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*s*******
man she'd get angry so quickly if you did half that stuff
-working on the car Friday nights or on any night she has something planned for me.
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*s*******
man she'd get angry so quickly if you did half that stuff
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....is that really your daughter?
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That's my daughter... pretty neat video they did awhile back. She has her own website as well.
http://www.zoecadence.com
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fix the motor yourself and gain some knowledge/ experience!
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's my goal... hopefully Francisco (RP Racing FTW) will give me a spot of help.
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's my daughter... pretty neat video they did awhile back. She has her own website as well.
http://www.zoecadence.com
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fix the motor yourself and gain some knowledge/ experience!
</TD></TR></TABLE>That's my goal... hopefully Francisco (RP Racing FTW) will give me a spot of help.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, that sucks man. Look at it as an opportunity to improve.
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Does suck... are there any estimates (idea) what it will cost to fix this problem. Also a short list of parts and anything I should be aware of. Obviously due to oil starvation is the worse. Should I assume all bearings to be changed and crank is either good or bad (most likely bad). Guess I'll tear it apart and report back. Is the best idea just to get the motor out or is it better to pull the pan and try to inspect the damage that way? LMK.
What's my car worth the way it sits. -Thinking of just dumping it cheap and getting a Honda Fit
</TD></TR></TABLE>Does suck... are there any estimates (idea) what it will cost to fix this problem. Also a short list of parts and anything I should be aware of. Obviously due to oil starvation is the worse. Should I assume all bearings to be changed and crank is either good or bad (most likely bad). Guess I'll tear it apart and report back. Is the best idea just to get the motor out or is it better to pull the pan and try to inspect the damage that way? LMK.
What's my car worth the way it sits. -Thinking of just dumping it cheap and getting a Honda Fit
New Honda OEM ITR Block. 
They're not quite as expensive as you'd expect. That's what I would do. Unless you're trying to build stronger.
In that case, I'd pull the entire engine, tear everything down and inspect all parts for damage. If it's just the bottom end that is damaged, I'd do the following:
-OEM Bearings
-Eagle Crank Shaft
-Eagle H-Beam Forged Rods
-JE/Arias/CP (Your choice) Pistons (I'd go 11-11.5:1)
-Balanced (I doubt there will be any needed, Eagle rotating assemblies are pretty Damn well balanced as is)
And that would be a stout bottom end. If you're going with the boost, go which ever CR you desire. I'd personally go with 10.5:1, that way you keep close to the Type-R CR, with it's great torque, and responsiveness, added with nasty top end... That would be a really fun car.
Good luck with it man.

They're not quite as expensive as you'd expect. That's what I would do. Unless you're trying to build stronger.
In that case, I'd pull the entire engine, tear everything down and inspect all parts for damage. If it's just the bottom end that is damaged, I'd do the following:
-OEM Bearings
-Eagle Crank Shaft
-Eagle H-Beam Forged Rods
-JE/Arias/CP (Your choice) Pistons (I'd go 11-11.5:1)
-Balanced (I doubt there will be any needed, Eagle rotating assemblies are pretty Damn well balanced as is)
And that would be a stout bottom end. If you're going with the boost, go which ever CR you desire. I'd personally go with 10.5:1, that way you keep close to the Type-R CR, with it's great torque, and responsiveness, added with nasty top end... That would be a really fun car.

Good luck with it man.
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ok.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone wanna chime in with considerations on the rebuild. Obviously
me for not daily checking the oil. I guess you learn the hard way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone wanna chime in with considerations on the rebuild. Obviously
me for not daily checking the oil. I guess you learn the hard way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
OK, it's not your wife's fault that your car sucks. Sucks ***, sucks oil, whatever... 
Get a JDM H22A Type-S motor. It has a red top which makes it pretty. Your ITR IM/TB will fit, if you wanted to keep 'em. Toss a nice header on it and you're in business.
There's an H2B b-series tranny adapter for the H motor.
(chris, faster in the Prelude than in the ITR...)

Get a JDM H22A Type-S motor. It has a red top which makes it pretty. Your ITR IM/TB will fit, if you wanted to keep 'em. Toss a nice header on it and you're in business.
There's an H2B b-series tranny adapter for the H motor.
(chris, faster in the Prelude than in the ITR...)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">New Honda OEM ITR Block. </TD></TR></TABLE>Is this all I need? (part 4)
http://www.barancoacuraparts.c...dIrno=
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Opie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can always count on Opie.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, it's not your wife's fault that your car sucks. Sucks ***, sucks oil, whatever...
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So my car sucks... I thought quite a few of the ITRs suck oil. Not to mention the charger probably doesn't help.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a JDM H22A Type-S motor. It has a red top which makes it pretty. Your ITR IM/TB will fit, if you wanted to keep 'em. Toss a nice header on it and you're in business.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just traded my h22A jdm motor last month. Wish I new better. I bought a wrecked GSR teggie with a conversion so I could have parts to rebuild my other ITR shell. I was surprised to find the h22 sitting in the teg. That's the way it goes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There's an H2B b-series tranny adapter for the H motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The motor I got rid of had all of that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(chris, faster in the Prelude than in the ITR...)</TD></TR></TABLE>
straight line or through the twisties?
http://www.barancoacuraparts.c...dIrno=
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Opie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can always count on Opie.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK, it's not your wife's fault that your car sucks. Sucks ***, sucks oil, whatever...
</TD></TR></TABLE>So my car sucks... I thought quite a few of the ITRs suck oil. Not to mention the charger probably doesn't help.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a JDM H22A Type-S motor. It has a red top which makes it pretty. Your ITR IM/TB will fit, if you wanted to keep 'em. Toss a nice header on it and you're in business.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just traded my h22A jdm motor last month. Wish I new better. I bought a wrecked GSR teggie with a conversion so I could have parts to rebuild my other ITR shell. I was surprised to find the h22 sitting in the teg. That's the way it goes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There's an H2B b-series tranny adapter for the H motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The motor I got rid of had all of that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(chris, faster in the Prelude than in the ITR...)</TD></TR></TABLE>
straight line or through the twisties?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">straight line or through the twisties?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, OK, I coulda been more clear...
The prelude weighs about 250 less pounds and has a better suspension setup, and better brakes.
The R would win for 1 lap, then the intercooler gets hot and everything else gets hot. Prelude would kill it in a longer race. ITR is a low 13 second car, Prelude is probably a mid-13 second car.
Well, technically, the Prelude doesn't have a head at the moment.
Yeah, OK, I coulda been more clear...
The prelude weighs about 250 less pounds and has a better suspension setup, and better brakes.
The R would win for 1 lap, then the intercooler gets hot and everything else gets hot. Prelude would kill it in a longer race. ITR is a low 13 second car, Prelude is probably a mid-13 second car.
Well, technically, the Prelude doesn't have a head at the moment.
If I had to pick a car to keep, I'd gladly drop my BB6 into the river. 
Honestly, I'm a big supporter of the H-Series engines... People doubt them. But I would NEVER put one in an ITR. GSR, sure, Civic, sure, ITR... Hell no.
A very fun setup would be H23 Block, Type-S Pistons, H22 Head, Skunk2 Valvetrain with Stage II Cams, Blacktrax IM, RPM Services 72mm TB, Prospeed Header, H2B Conversion with ITR Transmission equiped with ATS 5.077 FD... That would be some kind of fast.

Honestly, I'm a big supporter of the H-Series engines... People doubt them. But I would NEVER put one in an ITR. GSR, sure, Civic, sure, ITR... Hell no.
A very fun setup would be H23 Block, Type-S Pistons, H22 Head, Skunk2 Valvetrain with Stage II Cams, Blacktrax IM, RPM Services 72mm TB, Prospeed Header, H2B Conversion with ITR Transmission equiped with ATS 5.077 FD... That would be some kind of fast.
Still have a few questions... perhaps some individuals with engine building skills would PM me. I appreciate it.
Modified by dsav4shawn at 9:22 PM 10/6/2006
Modified by dsav4shawn at 9:22 PM 10/6/2006



