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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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I want to build a gsr block is it better if I put CTR piston or Type R pistons Ive notice that the compression is higher on the CTR pistons than the type Rs also the head which one gets more hp the type R head on GSR block or just a gsr head...HELP
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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in not a big fan of ctr pistons
too much compression for eveyday driving.
i go with p30
they will give you more compression than itr pistons
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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lol sorry have to do it......... whats the differnce between type R and ctr? they are the same thing ctr=civic type r.... itr= integra type r........... sorry......... i know what you mean though itr or ctr....... the ctr's will give you a much higher c/r but the same power could be made with the itr's becuase you will actually be able to run a good amount of timing on pump gas

as far as heads i would go with the itr....... but im biased
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ruben19 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in not a big fan of ctr pistons
too much compression for eveyday driving.
i go with p30
they will give you more compression than itr pistons
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I am also not a fan of the CTR PCT piston, but Do you have ANY proof to this statment in bold?

ITR = P73
CTR = PCT
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRiXZc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I am also not a fan of the CTR PCT piston, but Do you have ANY proof to this statment in bold?

ITR = P73
CTR = PCT</TD></TR></TABLE>

depends on a few factors, see for yourself: http://www.zealautowerks.com/
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sticky icky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

depends on a few factors, see for yourself: http://www.zealautowerks.com/</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok you question me and make my point,


Modified by CRiXZc at 8:18 PM 9/28/2006
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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They are designed for NA applications with a Compression ratio of

B16A Block and Head 10.95:1

B18C1 Block and Head 12.40:1

B18C1 Block and B18c5/B16A Head 12.10:1

B18A/B Block with B18C1 Head 12.64:1

thats just what I found to prove it
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ERNIEinDAteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are designed for NA applications with a Compression ratio of

B16A Block and Head 10.95:1

B18C1 Block and Head 12.40:1

B18C1 Block and B18c5/B16A Head 12.10:1

B18A/B Block with B18C1 Head 12.64:1

thats just what I found to prove it </TD></TR></TABLE>


Are you calculating CTR PCT compressions? If so they are much higher in each application. You must factor in the piston compression height.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sticky icky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">depends on a few factors, see for yourself: http://www.zealautowerks.com/</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is funny is you sealed your own fate. Check for yourself.

P30's in my engine equals 11.5:1. P73-00's in my engine equals 11.59:1. I like that calculator though. Only one I have seen so far that actually factors in compression height and true piston-to-deck height which is key. Everyone always thinks P30's will yield more compression based on dome displacement alone, but there are other factors as shown.
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