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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Does anyone use one of these?

http://www.cardowireless.com/scala_rider/



They are on eBay for what looks to be an average of $90-100, and I think that is well worth it if it does what it claims to do.

Must save money, but with a new Bluetooth-equipped phone on the way, it seems logical to do this. Anyone got first-hand experience?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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a guy I rode with had one. Seemed to be pretty handy since we called some people to join up and they ended calling back while we were riding. He just slowed down and told them where to meet us. For me though I don't get enough calls to bother with one /emo
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Riding is no time for talking.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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uh... why not? it's not like you're talking on the phone while ripping up deals gap. We were on backroads ripping it up but when he got a call (if he heard it over our exhausts heh ) he'd slow down to a "normal" pace that where if you are incapable of riding and talking at the same time, then i don't think you belong on a bike in the first place. And what about the people who use talk abouts or helmet to helmet mics?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uh... why not? it's not like you're talking on the phone while ripping up deals gap. We were on backroads ripping it up but when he got a call (if he heard it over our exhausts heh ) he'd slow down to a "normal" pace that where if you are incapable of riding and talking at the same time, then i don't think you belong on a bike in the first place. And what about the people who use talk abouts or helmet to helmet mics? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. All your doing is talking. Its not like your holding a cell up to your face while drinking coffee and reading the news paper like some of our cager friends. Talking and riding doesnt seem like its all that difficult.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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LOL, when you said that I pictured a business consultant at deals gap scraping pegs and **** on a FJR1300 . "Ok so we're really liking your marketing plan..." *sparks flying around turn*.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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heh some of the people on a goldwing I'm sure could do that
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 05:21 AM
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It's amusing that bikers are so quick to bitch about reckless SUV drivers on their cell phone yet we have some don't think it's a bad idea to do it themselves. Talking on the phone while riding is retarded. Anything that requires thought is attention taken away from your surroundings. No call is that important.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's amusing that bikers are so quick to bitch about reckless SUV drivers on their cell phone yet we have some don't think it's a bad idea to do it themselves. Talking on the phone while riding is retarded. Anything that requires thought is attention taken away from your surroundings. No call is that important.</TD></TR></TABLE>

We bitch about people devoting one hand to the job and not paying attention to the road.

I don't know about you guys, but I hate having to pull over, remove my helmet, and take a phone call. It's enough of an effort to look in my tankbag's cellphone pocket to see who's calling. If I could answer calls without taking my eyes off the road, I think it's worth the $$.

And Chris, some calls are that important. I have gone to numerous girlfriends' houses on my bike, and since I'm always running late it would be nice to be able to pick up when they call to say "where the hell are you?" Alternatively, I could call you or RJ and tell you to stay at the Sheetz in Leesburg for five more minutes if I'm within range.

It's not like I want to sit there and yak on it (don't have enough minutes for that anyway) but the convenience offered by this device is potentially huge.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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Call when you're leaving and say you're running late or better yet... be on time! Problem solved.

The only call I've fielded on my bike was when my sister had her baby.

Everything else is what they invented voicemail for.

-Chris, who wonders how people dealt with not receinving such important calls before cell phones
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 05:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Be on time. Problem solved.

Everything else is what they invented voicemail for.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, the old "What works for me must work for everyone else" argument. Life is spontaneous...people need to be able to reach each other.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right, the old "What works for me must work for everyone else" argument. Life is spontaneous...people need to be able to reach each other.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess life only got spontaneous within the last 10 years then.

Need is a perception, not a reality, when it comes to cell phones (and a **** ton of other conveniences in our life).

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-EGlovr, who wonders how people dealt with not receiving such important calls before cell phones</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess life only got spontaneous within the last 10 years then.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I look at the cell phone as one of the best inventions ever. How we lived without it is truly irrelevant to this discussion. We lived without motorcycles and computers too, once. Does that matter?

Life didn't suddenly get spontaneous 10 years ago, but our ability to prepare for its little eventualities has increased by leaps and bounds in that time. I see no reason why riders should be inaccessible to the outside world, unless they want to be.

I understand you may be thinking it destroys the purity of riding...but so does riding in traffic. We live in NoVA, not some Peter Egan column.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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maybe because riding requires enough attention as it is. adding unneccesary variables (ie. talking on a headset) would lessen that attention span, thus making riders more vuenerable to crashes.

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGlovr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe because riding requires enough attention as it is. adding unneccesary variables (ie. talking on a headset) would lessen that attention span, thus making riders more vuenerable to crashes.

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Perhaps. But how many crashes result from riders not paying attention?

The vast majority of motorcycle accidents are the result of pushing too hard, or because someone else doesn't see you.

So, by this point I take it that neither you nor Chris have any first-hand experience with this device?
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The vast majority of motorcycle accidents are the result of pushing too hard, or because someone else doesn't see you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And you think that adding an additional variable that does take your attention away is going to not have any affect on increasing the chance of the two leading causes of motorcycle accidents? If so, you're dilusional. You only have a certain amount of attention available to spend.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We live in NoVA, not some Peter Egan column.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I live in my own little world.

I'll fully admit that I dont particularly like the infatuation most people have with cell phones, but then again I wouldnt want to get rid of them. I think they're great for communication on the go, but too many people around here are tethered to them as if their life depended on it. Talking all the time, text messaging, instant messaging, cell phone, internet browsing, calender, etc, ad nauseum. Its rediculous. The other day I was almost run over by some girl who was happily pounding away at her cell phone (i can only assume txt msg) and not paying attention to the road. I laid on the horn and downshifted to about 10,000 rpm - that got her attention.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, by this point I take it that neither you nor Chris have any first-hand experience with this device? </TD></TR></TABLE> no. and i wouldnt want any.

http://www.r6messagenet.com/fo...39278

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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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I submit a case study for your review....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1666111

I was moving my bike from the back to the front of office, braked over pebbles (I guess) on the blacktop and dropped the bike.... funny thing is I was on the phone with my gf the whole time (ear piece).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The other day I was almost run over by some girl who was happily pounding away at her cell phone (i can only assume txt msg) and not paying attention to the road. I laid on the horn and downshifted to about 10,000 rpm - that got her attention.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you ever been in the car while Matt's driving and texting at the same time? **** pisses me off.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 06:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you ever been in the car while Matt's driving and texting at the same time? **** pisses me off.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He's one of the "tethered to the cell phone and interweb for life" crowd. I give him **** about it all the time....

There's plenty of times that I just do not want to be bothered, and being on the bike (motorcycle or pedal bike) is one of them. I also dont have a blackberry for work, I just dont want one. If I'm not in the office/at home, and you cant reach my cell phone, there's not a damn thing I'm going to be able to do about whatever's broken anyways.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And you think that adding an additional variable that does take your attention away is going to not have any affect on increasing the two leading causes of motorcycle accidents? If so, you're dilusional. You only have a certain amount of attention available to spend.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure, of course. We all know about the increased concentration that being on a motorcycle demands. If one uses a device such as this, one should use his best judgment about which calls are essential to receive, and keep calls dialed to a minimum.

Even if you pull off the road to take an important call using this headset, you don't have to take off your gloves, take off your helmet, and take the phone out of your bag/pants/jacket. By which time, you've already missed the call and have to sit waiting for them to call back, or call them while they're leaving you a voicemail. Then you've sat on the side of the road for minutes without even getting in touch with your party.

If you're zipping along and decide to take a call, common sense will dictate that you slow down and take stock of your surroundings. As long as you do this, I see no reason that using one of these devices constitutes irresponsibility on its own.

Has anyone had a female friend show up at their house randomly, because they were in the neighborhood, and missed the call because they were on the bike? I have and it sucks.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGlovr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> no. and i wouldnt want any.

http://www.r6messagenet.com/fo...39278

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Those are helmets with BT technology in them already. I'm just talking about the attachable earpiece for an existing helmet.

Anyway, I'm going to pick one up as soon as I can afford it. Shall let everyone know how it goes.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Even if you pull off the road to take an important call using this headset, you don't have to take off your gloves, take off your helmet, and take the phone out of your bag/pants/jacket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Speaker phone. Gloves and helmet stay on.

One of the very few situations where a speaker on a cell phone are actually useful instead of unnecessarily annoying.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone had a female friend show up at their house randomly, because they were in the neighborhood, and missed the call because they were on the bike? I have and it sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Awww... Ross missed a booty call.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uh... why not? it's not like you're talking on the phone while ripping up deals gap. We were on backroads ripping it up but when he got a call (if he heard it over our exhausts heh ) he'd slow down to a "normal" pace that where if you are incapable of riding and talking at the same time, then i don't think you belong on a bike in the first place. And what about the people who use talk abouts or helmet to helmet mics? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Distractions, loss of concentration. You'll be kicking yourself in the *** one day when you crash because you were talking to someone on the phone, not unless your pulled over and taking the call.

It reminds me of girls that always have to be on the phone while in the car.

But on a serious note, its helpful to have when you need directions.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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i think this is on the same page as riding with your mp3 player around the city. just as distracting .. you can zone out when listening to music...

at any rate, it is at the risk of the rider, so let them do what they will, i would look into something like this, but i am waiting for that new blue tooth that is like a earplug so i do not have to work with clunky objects.
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