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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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I have a 94 Civic EX and I'm getting the horrible steering/car vibration under braking. Of course I think it's the rack end bushing, but after numerous searchs it seems that all of the posts have been for non-powersteering racks.

Is the rack end bushing even a problem on the powersteering racks?
If so have people changed it out and have a diagram for the one needed?

Thanks for the help.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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i dont have nany experience iwth power racks. it could be. howeve, you need to check everything else first.

at the very least, you can try to retighten the pinion gear.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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There is no "rack end bushing" inside a power steering gearbox. This is why you don't hear about them in rack end bushing threads. Instead of a bushing, the steering rack slides back & forth on three fluid seals & a host of other parts...

92-95 PS Gearbox:


92-95 Manual Gearbox (#10 = rack end bushing):


As you can see from the pictures, the PS gearbox is quite complicated (and the tie rods arn't even pictured with the PS rack). There are a ton of parts inside. This is just one more reason why lots of people prefer a manual steering system. You can always switch (for relativly cheap too)...

Just get under your car & check every ball-joint for play by shaking the crap out of everything (you will feel it). Keep in mind that there are 4 ball-joints on either side of the front suspension. Also check out your axles for any damage. It could also just be "warped rotors"...
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Sounds more like warped rotors or uneven pad wear. Maybe you have a siezed up caliper. Rack and pinion probably is not causing that.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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yeah but looseness in the suspension/steering causes the rotors to warp, and warped rotors should not cause the car to shake uncontrollably if everything else is tight.

it should be just a mild pulsing.

i know this because ive fixed my steering and still had warped rotors and thats all i got.

so its a chicken or egg situation, replacing just the rotors is not the solution.

btw, check your tie rods.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Thanks for the tips. I went to try to shake everything under the car tonight and nothing moved. Well I guess I will fix the rack boots and wait until something falls off the car to fix it so I know what is really wrong. Yeah I'm almost positive it's not the rotors because the brake pedal has not pulsing to it.

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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did you say your steering rack boot is torn?
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by in2turbos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the tips. I went to try to shake everything under the car tonight and nothing moved. Well I guess I will fix the rack boots and wait until something falls off the car to fix it so I know what is really wrong. Yeah I'm almost positive it's not the rotors because the brake pedal has not pulsing to it.

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If your rack boots are torn, and its been like that for a while, your rack is probably shot.

This is what happened to me, I had the same shaking sensation on the highway and while breaking, but the steering was sloppy too. I just changed out my manual rack for another rebuilt rack with a Quaife shorter ratio rack. Problem solved.
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