2001 automatic ex what r my options???
Hi:
I own a 2001 ex with automatic transmission. Is a automatic worth going through the investment of upgrading or should wait (another five years probably) to get a shift stick. The reason for buying a automatic is my wife can't drive a shift.
If its worth it ... any suggestions where to start (more interested in power gain than appearance). Thanks
I own a 2001 ex with automatic transmission. Is a automatic worth going through the investment of upgrading or should wait (another five years probably) to get a shift stick. The reason for buying a automatic is my wife can't drive a shift.
If its worth it ... any suggestions where to start (more interested in power gain than appearance). Thanks
power wise, it will suck. period. unless you do some major major modifications on it. that would be spray with boost, along with a torque converter and overhaul of the tranny. and thats just to overcome the tranny. the engine power output isnt worth modding either.
It's never going to be a fast car. About all you can do is make it handle well, and if you want some added sound you can do an intake or exhaust...although I think aftermarket exhausts sound funny on auto 4 cylinders.
Seriously, just save your money on performance mods, or upgrade to a faster auto tranny car.
Seriously, just save your money on performance mods, or upgrade to a faster auto tranny car.
I agree, aftermarket exhausts on auto's sounds gay, when u hear it shift:p.
I would wait out the 5 years, OR teach ur wife to drive stick. Go with what they said before, make it handle/brake, thats really the best bang for buck.
I would wait out the 5 years, OR teach ur wife to drive stick. Go with what they said before, make it handle/brake, thats really the best bang for buck.
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autos dont sound gay
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it does. it sounds even gayer when you let off the gas when its about to shift, to try and make it sound like a stick
face it girls, it's an auto, not a stick. dont try and make it sound like one.
autos dont sound gay
</TD></TR></TABLE>it does. it sounds even gayer when you let off the gas when its about to shift, to try and make it sound like a stick
face it girls, it's an auto, not a stick. dont try and make it sound like one.
Thanks Curiouz_G
but i am extremely new to tuning .. so please if could explain .."spray with boost" means. And what does overcoming the tranny mean?
Sorry if i sound like a total noob .. but i am :-)
but i am extremely new to tuning .. so please if could explain .."spray with boost" means. And what does overcoming the tranny mean?
Sorry if i sound like a total noob .. but i am :-)
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reason for sharing cars is money.. budget doesn't allow yet for too :-) thanks though.
but as far as upgrading so it means its waste of money for me to install a intake or exhaust?? as it won't make the car much faster??
but as far as upgrading so it means its waste of money for me to install a intake or exhaust?? as it won't make the car much faster??
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Bingo, u wont get any power from these boltons. They are more for apperance/sound than performance.
Bingo, u wont get any power from these boltons. They are more for apperance/sound than performance.
what about street legal turbo's?? are there any out there for an automatic?? i was looking at some on greddy .. they cost around 3 or 4 grand. Wasn't sure if they were street legal. Anyone know any street applications? Also if i had a shift stick would i be able to get more power out of the engine or is the civic engine as a whole not that great to be upgraded??
Thanks
Thanks
Heres the poop. The Engine you have the D17A2 sucks period. It was meant for two things. Economy and Transportation. Now Honda does make good engines such as the B16 and any K series engine (Found only with Civic SI's and Acura RSX-S) Having said that, you are probably better off saving your money for a stick. As far as I know NO turbo is street legal and the way your engine is designed you could not put more than about 5 PSI of boost ino the combustion chamber before you ruined your cylinder walls. The B and K series engines have a much more "Performance" design allowing their owners the ability to put nitrous, turbo, headers, intake, etc. IMO you are better off putting your money in a bank for it to gain interest and spend on a new car later. BTW the new 2007 Civic SI Sedan looks like a bat out of hell! Wish it had more power though.
Good luck, hope you can digest that all.
Good luck, hope you can digest that all.
I don't know how much it would be on your car, but I Trans swap on my 95 civic for 1500 because my parents told me I had to get an auto for my frist car, I started moding it then when I said I could I did the swap, u could do the same.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tadehi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres the poop. The Engine you have the D17A2 sucks period. It was meant for two things. Economy and Transportation. Now Honda does make good engines such as the B16 and any K series engine (Found only with Civic SI's and Acura RSX-S) Having said that, you are probably better off saving your money for a stick. As far as I know NO turbo is street legal and the way your engine is designed you could not put more than about 5 PSI of boost ino the combustion chamber before you ruined your cylinder walls. The B and K series engines have a much more "Performance" design allowing their owners the ability to put nitrous, turbo, headers, intake, etc. IMO you are better off putting your money in a bank for it to gain interest and spend on a new car later. BTW the new 2007 Civic SI Sedan looks like a bat out of hell! Wish it had more power though.
Good luck, hope you can digest that all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Watch what you say man, our engines can and HAVE seen 10 psi of boost DAILY DRIVEN. They can handle 7-8-9 easily, without doing any internal upgrades.
If u want a GOOD ( but not street legal, as none exist) turbo kit for the d17a2, go to http://www.dezod.com, they made 164whp on their auto EX with only a small bit of boost, I believe it was 6psi. That will make everythnig a LOT more fun.
Good luck, hope you can digest that all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Watch what you say man, our engines can and HAVE seen 10 psi of boost DAILY DRIVEN. They can handle 7-8-9 easily, without doing any internal upgrades.
If u want a GOOD ( but not street legal, as none exist) turbo kit for the d17a2, go to http://www.dezod.com, they made 164whp on their auto EX with only a small bit of boost, I believe it was 6psi. That will make everythnig a LOT more fun.
you start with 90WHP btw on a auto ex so thats quite a jump. and that was on dezods ORIGINAL kit. hes working on head porting now so im thinking 180whp on stock internals wont be a problem
okay call it my navie knowledge of tunning or me simply being stupid but i thought turbos were street legal .. i mean what about cars that are already factory turbo charged?? and i read this on the website you guys recommended:
"Dezod Motorsports D17 Stage II Turbo Kit (Designed for High Performance Street & Racing use) (14-20 PSI)"
What different is a turbo kit from an actual turbo? and if civic is such a bad car uprading speed wise
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tadehi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres the poop. The Engine you have the D17A2 sucks period. It was meant for two things. Economy and Transportation..l.</TD></TR></TABLE>:
than why are so many civics tunned out there? also if the d17 "sucks" than what is a good engine that fits the civic chasis?
"Dezod Motorsports D17 Stage II Turbo Kit (Designed for High Performance Street & Racing use) (14-20 PSI)"
What different is a turbo kit from an actual turbo? and if civic is such a bad car uprading speed wise
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tadehi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres the poop. The Engine you have the D17A2 sucks period. It was meant for two things. Economy and Transportation..l.</TD></TR></TABLE>:
than why are so many civics tunned out there? also if the d17 "sucks" than what is a good engine that fits the civic chasis?
alright ill compile a list...
-bolt ons arent "tuned" civics
-the stage 2 turbo kit most likely provides a larger turbo for more high end power and better EMS. it also looks like it said 14-20PSI so that means some internal work too
-the k series motors are the ones you want in your car
-factory turbochargers are from the factory, therefore they are legal
-bolt ons arent "tuned" civics
-the stage 2 turbo kit most likely provides a larger turbo for more high end power and better EMS. it also looks like it said 14-20PSI so that means some internal work too
-the k series motors are the ones you want in your car
-factory turbochargers are from the factory, therefore they are legal
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tanoli »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay call it my navie knowledge of tunning or me simply being stupid but i thought turbos were street legal .. i mean what about cars that are already factory turbo charged?? and i read this on the website you guys recommended:
"Dezod Motorsports D17 Stage II Turbo Kit (Designed for High Performance Street & Racing use) (14-20 PSI)"
What different is a turbo kit from an actual turbo? and if civic is such a bad car uprading speed wise
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than why are so many civics tunned out there? also if the d17 "sucks" than what is a good engine that fits the civic chasis?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cars that are factory turbo'd already went through emissions processes to make them standardized. Custom aftermarket setups did not. If a company, like Edelbrock, wants to create an aftermarket part that's CARB legal, they need to go through lots of testing to do so.
A turbo kit comes with all or most of the components necessary to install a turbocharger onto a vehicle, where as a turbocharger is just a part that is included in the kit (the snail looking like thing with a spinning fan in the middle).
A Civic is actually a good platform to modify, it's just that the 7th gen (aka. 2001-2005) Civic comes with an irregular engine, and there aren't many aftermarket parts for it that it responds well to. The D17 is a fairly bad engine to modify with. As far as engine swaps go, you really only have one logical swap alternative. That would be the K-series of engines that were given to the Acura RSX, Honda Civic Si (hatchback), Accord, CR-V, and Acura TSX. They all have varying degrees of installation difficulty, but rest assured that they are you only logical options.
"Dezod Motorsports D17 Stage II Turbo Kit (Designed for High Performance Street & Racing use) (14-20 PSI)"
What different is a turbo kit from an actual turbo? and if civic is such a bad car uprading speed wise
:
than why are so many civics tunned out there? also if the d17 "sucks" than what is a good engine that fits the civic chasis?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cars that are factory turbo'd already went through emissions processes to make them standardized. Custom aftermarket setups did not. If a company, like Edelbrock, wants to create an aftermarket part that's CARB legal, they need to go through lots of testing to do so.
A turbo kit comes with all or most of the components necessary to install a turbocharger onto a vehicle, where as a turbocharger is just a part that is included in the kit (the snail looking like thing with a spinning fan in the middle).
A Civic is actually a good platform to modify, it's just that the 7th gen (aka. 2001-2005) Civic comes with an irregular engine, and there aren't many aftermarket parts for it that it responds well to. The D17 is a fairly bad engine to modify with. As far as engine swaps go, you really only have one logical swap alternative. That would be the K-series of engines that were given to the Acura RSX, Honda Civic Si (hatchback), Accord, CR-V, and Acura TSX. They all have varying degrees of installation difficulty, but rest assured that they are you only logical options.
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