Ok so here is the deal, I can get a real good deal on one of these and he said he can do just about anything with it I want. So I want some opinions on what I should ask him to do.

I am planning to tune with crome

1. He said he has a good basemap for the H22a he can use
2. He will set it up for datalogging
3. Should I have him remove the Knock Sensor?
4. Is it possible to remove the EGR sensor? I asked him but no responce yet
5. where should I have the Revlimiter
6. Idle Control - he said he can adjust this what is it?
7. Turn off the Speed Governor

FYI - My H22a4 engine will be stock besides
- Ebay intake w/ flowstack
- Megan Header and 2.5in exaust
- Balance shaft Removal
- Fidanza 8lb Flywheel and Exedy Clutch
- Converted OBD1 with JDM injectors, and Dizzy Kings Dizzy, Stock OBD1 Coil
- H23a Tranny

Planning to get cams in the future

I have no idea what other info you may need, so please ask.

Thanks

 

p06 does not support egr.
p06 does not support knock sensor either.
i would jsut have him do the h22a basemap and call it a day.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">p06 does not support egr.
p06 does not support knock sensor either.
i would jsut have him do the h22a basemap and call it a day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No KS or EGR thats no big deal right? I was thinking about having them removed anyway.

What about the IAB secondaries?

And Vtec engagement, rev limiter?

Thanks for the help

 

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No KS or EGR thats no big deal right? I was thinking about having them removed anyway.

What about the IAB secondaries?

And Vtec engagement, rev limiter?

Thanks for the help</TD></TR></TABLE>

No big deal without KS or EGR. Just more problems to deal with when tuning. Just make sure the tune is good.

P06 don't support IAB's either, so just run them open all the time, or remove the plate altogether.

VTEC engagement and Rev limiter should just stay stock until you get the cams. Then tune and adjust accordingly.

 

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P06 don't support IAB's either, so just run them open all the time, or remove the plate altogether. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I read about setting your IABs to open with VTEC? Does that sound like a good idea or no, better off open all the time.

 

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I read about setting your IABs to open with VTEC? Does that sound like a good idea or no, better off open all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Keeping the IABs closed only helps with low end.

 

a p06 will not activate vtec or iabs u need a p28 to get vtec active or you can convert ur po6 by adding the components . set the rev limit to stock im not sure what it is maybe 7800 not sure though just look it up

 

i would assume the seller has already converted the p06 to run vtec since it would have an h22 map on it.

until the ecu is tuned, the 5000rpm vtec and 7600 rpm rev limit will suffice. once it is tuned those will be adjusted.

with a well tuned prgoram the egr and knock are worthless anyway as well.

id either get the p06 converted to run IAB or run IAB on straight vacuum....

 

What about the option of opening with Vtec engagement? Not a good idea?

 

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I wouldn't worry about it, just keep them open full time. The only reason they close is to gain a little low end drivability and increase mileage. If you're after raw power, then keep them open or eliminate it altogether.

 

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I wouldn't worry about it, just keep them open full time. The only reason they close is to gain a little low end drivability and increase mileage. If you're after raw power, then keep them open or eliminate it altogether. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

This will be my daily driver, will it kill its daily drive-ability?

 

just by puttin an h22 on the basemap dont mean **** hell i could put that on mine now witha po6 chipped running crome pro on a h23 . I guarantee ur gonna need to convert it or get a p28 good luck man!!

 

let me break it down.

p06. needs hardware for vtec... and converted to a p28. the only difference will be that your p06 will not support IAB, this is ok, and NO dont just leave them open, thats so damn stupid. unless your trying to trash your low end torque.

this is what i would do...
first off, who is the cat that your getting this ecu from?
YOU NEED IABs so connect them by useing your vtec as a signal. this will get you 3-4lbs of tourqe at the low end, when vtec engauges with IABs its gonna kick ***.
I have a tunned h22a bin. i will make you a copy, so dont buy any chip if you can help it. follow the vac line off the IAB, it goes to a soleniod, that solenoid is where you will tap in the vtec signal. heres a link.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1681226

if you want that Bin (binary file, map) let me know. Pm if you have any Qs

 

how will a tuned bin for ANOTHER engine help?
jsut about EVERY h22 basemap out there was tuned for a specific engine...

 

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jsut about EVERY h22 basemap out there was tuned for a specific engine...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Another engine?
he has a A4 as do i.
basic i/h/e.

A base map is not tunned, ( except by honda) a base map is the stock map that came in the car. they are not made for power, they are made for economy and such.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pullig &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just by puttin an h22 on the basemap dont mean **** hell i could put that on mine now witha po6 chipped running crome pro on a h23 . I guarantee ur gonna need to convert it or get a p28 good luck man!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

He already added vtec, I am fine with the idea of no KS and EGR, I would rather not deal with them anyway. He is also removing the O2 for me also .

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC1107 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let me break it down.

p06. needs hardware for vtec... and converted to a p28. the only difference will be that your p06 will not support IAB, this is ok, and NO dont just leave them open, thats so damn stupid. unless your trying to trash your low end torque.

this is what i would do...
first off, who is the cat that your getting this ecu from?
YOU NEED IABs so connect them by useing your vtec as a signal. this will get you 3-4lbs of tourqe at the low end, when vtec engauges with IABs its gonna kick ***.
I have a tunned h22a bin. i will make you a copy, so dont buy any chip if you can help it. follow the vac line off the IAB, it goes to a soleniod, that solenoid is where you will tap in the vtec signal. heres a link.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1681226

if you want that Bin (binary file, map) let me know. Pm if you have any Qs</TD></TR></TABLE>

He is including the chip at no charge. I am runnin a very basic setup only mods for now are stated in my first post. I was going to ask him to send me a copy of the bin so I could have some of the tuners here at HT take a look at it.

The Vtec IAB engagement I read in another post a couple days ago and I also thought that would prolly work well for me.

I am going to get it tuned correctly once I get my cams and cam gears in a couple months.

I only made this post because I wanted to make sure I had all the details that I needed. And to ensure this setup was going to work OK. I have never heard of anyone using a p06, but the programmer/chipper/modder (for lack of better terms) convinced me this was going to work as well as a p28, which after hearing from you guys, I am even more convinced.

THC1107 I would definatelly take a copy of your bin That would be great.

 

Kewl, pm me an address to mail it to. or email to send the binary file to.

as for the o2. dont remove it. bad idea. unless your 100% sure that the condition your engine will be introduced to has a path on your maps. kinda hard to explain.
its early. do you understand "open loop" and "closed loop"?
he might have to convert the p06 to a four wire o2. im not sure.

 

Yea I will leave the O2. For sure.
Is the 4 wire o2 setup better in some way?

 

yes, the heater.

 

Cool thanks, wheres the best place to get a burner? What does everyone here use?

 

Get the moates ostrich ... Screw burning chips you can upload realtime on the fly. It cuts tuning time a whole lot also, which will save you some money.

http://www.moates.net

 

This will plug directly into my P06?

 

yes it goes where the rom chip goes.

 

Still use crome to program?