Anybody have any experience with the skunk 2 pro 1 cam in their R? I got the whole combo with sk2 pro cam, cam gear, ti retainers and valve spring for a price that i couldn't pass...wat other thing i should get if i want to go with it? right now all i have is a dc header and cold air intake, wat else? bigger injectors? fuel pump/rails? bigger throttle body (wat size), a skunk2 intake manifold or is the stock r one good enough? I want to do all at 1 time so i wanna hear wat you guys opinions are! thx

 

Hope u have enough compression to back those cams up and that u dont over cam ur motor skunk cams love compression

 

wat do i need to get enough compression?

 

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A bunch of searching and homework.

Seriously, you can't just generalize it. There are a few ways to do it, and though I have no experience with those cams you may want to read up on what works best with them.

 

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do you have an aversion to the letter "h"?


edit: nevermind, i just realized you are canadian

 

compression on stock motors is fine for these cams. Good tuning, and a nice intake and header will make it run real strong.

 

dont listen to runner ive talked to a skunk represenative b4 i've been in the same problem as u these cams need compression to get good power out of them now the person i talked to at skunk told me that the minunium compression should be 11:4:1 to run those cams

 

ha, ok then I guess I don't know what i'm talking about. teach me some n/a engine building dynamics please.

 

I would say injectors & tuning device(ie Hondata), better header if you can afford it(smsp, hytech, rmf)

 

Pro1's are fine on stock ITR compression. We've made good power with Pro2's on 11:1.

However, due to the larger primaries on the Skunk2 Pro series cams, you will need a tuning solution that offers the ability to adjust fuel trim and timing at idle, ie: Hondata, Crome, Apexi PowerFC...otherwise you will have a problem with getting the car to idle properly.

In addition, I would guess you will loose power unless you tune the cams. The stock ITR computer does not run enough ignition timing to make up for the large overlap.

If you want to take full advantage of these cams, I would also consider purchasing a good header. The SSR B-unit and Street Sweaper are the two best performing units we have tested.

 

So 11.6:1 is pleanty for a skunk 2 pro1 right? ive been looking at these cams also.

 

yes, that compression is fine.

a common misconception on h-t is this whole cam/compression thing. yes, b-series do like compression, it makes more torque and response. but its not going to stop cams from making power, they flow more air...plain and simple. you will still see people argue that cams bleed off a lot of compression, maybe this is the case with a street pushrod motor, but modern twin cam 16v motor with vtec is a different story.

 

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I'll be running with 11.5ish compression with Pro1 cams very soon.

 

I'm not even going to get into the topic. This thread sums it up really nicely.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1726429&page=1

Can you run the cams on stock compression = yes
Will they make peak power = yes
Will they have a nice powerband = No

Why half *** it?

 

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Sounds like you have the compression woes.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L_K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anybody have any experience with the skunk 2 pro 1 cam in their R? I got the whole combo with sk2 pro cam, cam gear, ti retainers and valve spring for a price that i couldn't pass...wat other thing i should get if i want to go with it? right now all i have is a dc header and cold air intake, wat else? bigger injectors? fuel pump/rails? bigger throttle body (wat size), a skunk2 intake manifold or is the stock r one good enough? I want to do all at 1 time so i wanna hear wat you guys opinions are! thx

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i'd go with bigger injectors.
better header
keep the manifold(IM),fule rail stock
run spoon/mugen thin head gasket for higer compression..
this should be a good simple build.
and your car is already fast enough as is right now.. hatch + ITR motor (soon to be with those cams .. . it will be FAST).
i wont bealbe to keep up wtih you at the track any more

 

haha yea, i still remember getting burn by u on the straight....hopefully next time it would be the other way around!

 

yea u can just drop those cams in with no problem in a stock motor, but you will not gain the full potential of these cams, you might gain top end but youll proabably loose some low end and midrange and torque

 

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i guess the people at skunk who sell these cams wouldnt know what compression you should use for there own product i mean what do they know they only sell racing products

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really since usdm b18c5 only come with 10:6:1 compression maybe ur on a jdm motor that comes with 11:1 compression

 

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What experience do you have with aftermarket cams on the stock USDM ITR compression?

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He said that Pro1's are fine on 10.6:1. He then stated that he has Pro2's make good power on 11:1 compression. This seems to imply that Pro2 cams would do even better with more than 11:1 compression, but they will make decent power with only 11:1.

I don't know why you're trying to bash everyone who is trying to offer up advice. I sure hope you're speaking from firsthand experience, and not arguing with everyone based on one phone call you made to Skunk2.

Please enlighten us as to which combinations you've personally tried, what worked, what didn't work, etc.

 

like ive said b4 ive gone through this same problem i installed the pro series cam on my 01 itr i bumped up the comrpession just a lil with a 2 layer head gasket. so after i installed the cams i noticed my low end and midrange werent has strong, i felt like i lost alot of torque, but my top end was nice. i went on the dyno and even saw it. with the stock cams i had more low end, midrange and higher torque numbers then with the pro series cams. although the pro series cams did make more power i lost some on the low and mid. so this is from personal experiecne im trying to help this guy so he doesnt go through the same problems i had thats it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoBo Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like ive said b4 ive gone through this same problem i installed the pro series cam on my 01 itr i bumped up the comrpession just a lil with a 2 layer head gasket. so after i installed the cams i noticed my low end and midrange werent has strong, i felt like i lost alot of torque, but my top end was nice. i went on the dyno and even saw it. with the stock cams i had more low end, midrange and higher torque numbers then with the pro series cams. although the pro series cams did make more power i lost some on the low and mid. so this is from personal experiecne im trying to help this guy so he doesnt go through the same problems i had thats it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Was the car tuned?

 

YES IT WAS

 

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i guess the people at skunk who sell these cams wouldnt know what compression you should use for there own product i mean what do they know they only sell racing products


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Like I said, more compression will increase torque and response among other things. So, yeah that will make better results but it would with stock cams too....

If you can't make good power increases on stock compression, you're doing something wrong.

 

yea ull make power with stock compression no doubt but u will be suffering on the low end and midrange