WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST INTAKE FOR A '03 EP3.......????
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WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST INTAKE FOR A '03 EP3.......????
I WAS THINKING OF UPGRADING MY STOCK INTAKE...BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH INTAKE WOULD BE THE BEST FOR MY CAR...ANY SUGGENTIONS WILL HELP....
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Re: (BarracksSi)
HEY..I WAS JUST READING SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN...WELL, TO BE HONEST I'M LOOKIN FOR THE "BEST" UPGRADE THAT I ARE AVAILABLE IN THE MARKET FOR THE CAR...NOT TO SAY THAT I'M RICH I JUST DON'T HAVE MANY BILLS AT THE MOMENT SO MINE AS WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE AND INVEST IN THE CAR!!!!!
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dont take this the wrong way but why come over here and promote another site the OP came here looking for some advice and answers not another site in which he has to repost what he has already done here..............
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i personally love me injen rd cia if you would like i can take some pics of it today...............
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02SHRTBUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont take this the wrong way but why come over here and promote another site the OP came here looking for some advice and answers not another site in which he has to repost what he has already done here..............
i personally love me injen rd cia if you would like i can take some pics of it today...............</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have an AEM V2, I dont recommend it, its an overpriced Short ram.
To answer your question shrtbus: because the site I was sending him to had a 17 page intake shoot out specifically for the EP3. It would have answered his questions allot better than anything that has been written here in this thread.
Ehhhhh......... -1 point for me now.
i personally love me injen rd cia if you would like i can take some pics of it today...............</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have an AEM V2, I dont recommend it, its an overpriced Short ram.
To answer your question shrtbus: because the site I was sending him to had a 17 page intake shoot out specifically for the EP3. It would have answered his questions allot better than anything that has been written here in this thread.
Ehhhhh......... -1 point for me now.
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its one thing to promote a website or send someone some where else in a thread its another thing to do it in a pm........... 
you could also copy and paste most of that thread or send me a pm to it and ill post it over here in the FAQ thread were getting started to make this forum more imformative to new peeps ......................
you could also copy and paste most of that thread or send me a pm to it and ill post it over here in the FAQ thread were getting started to make this forum more imformative to new peeps ......................
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Re: (02SHRTBUS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02SHRTBUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its one thing to promote a website or send someone some where else in a thread its another thing to do it in a pm...........
you could also copy and paste most of that thread or send me a pm to it and ill post it over here in the FAQ thread were getting started to make this forum more imformative to new peeps ......................</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem. I dont like the setup over there like I do here. Hence why I have a post count of like 200 there. But it does have a huge ep following. Ill pm you sme info, or send you links.
you could also copy and paste most of that thread or send me a pm to it and ill post it over here in the FAQ thread were getting started to make this forum more imformative to new peeps ......................</TD></TR></TABLE>
No problem. I dont like the setup over there like I do here. Hence why I have a post count of like 200 there. But it does have a huge ep following. Ill pm you sme info, or send you links.
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I'll run down what I know, and think about what kind of driving works for each...
A CAI will typically give the most hp gain, but usually at the expense of low-end torque and throttle response. It also has the most chance of hydrolocking the motor from a puddle, and those few times that you'd need to change or clean the filter can be a pain.
A short ram is easier to install, still gives good top-end gains, but loses power in city driving & slow traffic because it draws air from the space around the exhaust header. That's also the biggest drawback of the AEM V2.
Specially-designed intakes like the ARC airbox, the Neuspeed P-Flo, and Comptech Icebox have their own benefits. The ARC aims its flat filter towards the wheel well, drawing cooler air from there versus from behind the motor. The P-Flo comes with a heat shield and is said to keep intake temperatures down fairly well, but because the crankcase breather is left to vent to the outside air, it's not CARB legal. The Icebox is a good idea, but temperatures under the engine aren't necessarily the coolest either, and gains haven't been as good as expected.
The stock airbox has a few things going for it, notably throttle response and no chance of water damage. Being plastic, it also doesn't heat up incoming air as much as if it were made of metal (heatsinks are metal because they readily release heat into ambient air). But, it could probably flow better, and its intake scoop takes air from a space next to the battery, right behind the radiator.
Here's what I think the goal should be for a daily-driven car: Keep the good response & broad powerband of the stock box, but help it to flow better and lower the temperature of the incoming air, all without increasing the risk of water damage.
Simple, but expensive, solution would be the Mugen airbox. Wide-open interior & big filter for good response & flow, and an intake scoop that mounts above the radiator to draw air at ambient temperature.
Alternately, you can smooth out the stock airbox interior by cutting away its resonance chamber and flow-blocking ribs.
DIY at Hondata.com:
http://hondata.com/techkseriesairboxmod.html
You can also add a drop-in performance filter, something like what's available from Mugen, Spoon, or several other companies.
Finally, to get the same lower temperatures that the Mugen scoop allows, you can either get a Vision intake duct or fabricate a similar piece for much less money.
http://www.modacar.com/product....html
My summary:
If you want a sporty sound, a SRI will be fine. If you do most of your racing at the strip, a CAI would do well, since you don't need quick on-off-on throttle response and the engine spends all of its time at high RPMs, avoiding any low-rpm losses entirely. For autocrossing, quick throttle response and low heatsoak should be the important factors; I'd recommend tweaking the stock airbox or going with Mugen.
A CAI will typically give the most hp gain, but usually at the expense of low-end torque and throttle response. It also has the most chance of hydrolocking the motor from a puddle, and those few times that you'd need to change or clean the filter can be a pain.
A short ram is easier to install, still gives good top-end gains, but loses power in city driving & slow traffic because it draws air from the space around the exhaust header. That's also the biggest drawback of the AEM V2.
Specially-designed intakes like the ARC airbox, the Neuspeed P-Flo, and Comptech Icebox have their own benefits. The ARC aims its flat filter towards the wheel well, drawing cooler air from there versus from behind the motor. The P-Flo comes with a heat shield and is said to keep intake temperatures down fairly well, but because the crankcase breather is left to vent to the outside air, it's not CARB legal. The Icebox is a good idea, but temperatures under the engine aren't necessarily the coolest either, and gains haven't been as good as expected.
The stock airbox has a few things going for it, notably throttle response and no chance of water damage. Being plastic, it also doesn't heat up incoming air as much as if it were made of metal (heatsinks are metal because they readily release heat into ambient air). But, it could probably flow better, and its intake scoop takes air from a space next to the battery, right behind the radiator.
Here's what I think the goal should be for a daily-driven car: Keep the good response & broad powerband of the stock box, but help it to flow better and lower the temperature of the incoming air, all without increasing the risk of water damage.
Simple, but expensive, solution would be the Mugen airbox. Wide-open interior & big filter for good response & flow, and an intake scoop that mounts above the radiator to draw air at ambient temperature.
Alternately, you can smooth out the stock airbox interior by cutting away its resonance chamber and flow-blocking ribs.
DIY at Hondata.com:
http://hondata.com/techkseriesairboxmod.html
You can also add a drop-in performance filter, something like what's available from Mugen, Spoon, or several other companies.
Finally, to get the same lower temperatures that the Mugen scoop allows, you can either get a Vision intake duct or fabricate a similar piece for much less money.
http://www.modacar.com/product....html
My summary:
If you want a sporty sound, a SRI will be fine. If you do most of your racing at the strip, a CAI would do well, since you don't need quick on-off-on throttle response and the engine spends all of its time at high RPMs, avoiding any low-rpm losses entirely. For autocrossing, quick throttle response and low heatsoak should be the important factors; I'd recommend tweaking the stock airbox or going with Mugen.
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