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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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ok basically heres the deal... im thinking about buying this vehicle and want to make sure im getting a reliable setup. thank you


... b18c1 usdm GSR.

buddy club spec III cams.
itr valvetrain
aem cam gear
aem fuel rail
aem fpr
and ITB's....

stock block.

i have zero knowledge of itb's... are they safe to run like that? etc..

any knowledge, info, pics, or anything that you wanna share would be GREAT. thanks.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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You could make it work, but your money is better spent elsewhere.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Thats an ok setup for street. In the end its all on the tuner though.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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could i take it and get it tuned by a regular turbo tuner???
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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also... would it be safe to boost 6lbs on?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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safe to boost 6 lbs on, itb's are ment for na (unless you make a custom mani.) if your going boost, just go aftermarket.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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1 lb of boost can be terribly unsafe. All boost is unsafe unless you get it tuned well. I've seen poorly tuned turbos blow civics up at 6 lbs.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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didnt know that... thanks.

i have a b series turbo kit sitting at home... and was thinking if i should sell it.... or just put it on the GSR del sol....
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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this is definately true... i've seen the same thing happen many times.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projektcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">didnt know that... thanks.

i have a b series turbo kit sitting at home... and was thinking if i should sell it.... or just put it on the GSR del sol....</TD></TR></TABLE>

TURBO that bitch and make it happy!! just make sure you get it tuned and I probably wouldnt run more than 8psi at most, prob 6 for daily driven
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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what about the ITB's....

and the other aforementioned things....?


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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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you cant run itb's and turbo at the same time..or atleast i have never seen it done. itb are generaly for N/A applications...
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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i think if your thinking ITBs.. its not all that easy. i suggest you do mounds of research before you decide whats best for you!
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projektcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok basically heres the deal... im thinking about buying this vehicle and want to make sure im getting a reliable setup. thank you


... b18c1 usdm GSR.

buddy club spec III cams.
itr valvetrain
aem cam gear
aem fuel rail
aem fpr
and ITB's....

stock block.

i have zero knowledge of itb's... are they safe to run like that? etc..

any knowledge, info, pics, or anything that you wanna share would be GREAT. thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you enjoy trying to find a mechanic/tuner who's willing to spend countless hours tuning the damn thing correctly.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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yea. thats what i've been doing etc...

and plan on doing ALOT more. haha
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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I'm no expert but don't you need a stand alone fuel system for Individual Throttle Bodies??? I don't see that in your list of mods.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1706585 that is the thread for the car that i am talking about....


and like i said.... i know 100% nothing about itbs.... thats why im trying to do my research
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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I don't like buying previously modified cars. Anything more than stock it has most likely been run hard and/or raced. So unless you know the guy, I suggest you just keep looking.

Edit: I would especially steer clear of a swapped car.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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i've had plenty of experiances w/ dealing w/ swapped cars.... although im an ITB noob, im not a Honda noob. thanks though
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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That's a very nice little car. THat ITB setup looks pretty good. They all share a common vacum source so the stock ECU would be fine since the stock map can still function normaly.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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thank you. always appreciated man.

im just trying to research, find out everything i can about itb's....
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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tuning itb's
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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the ITB's are tuned for the car already... but im just wondering about the custom shroud i have to make to cover the top of the ITB's to get the charge pipes to go on....

:dunno:
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projektcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the ITB's are tuned for the car already... but im just wondering about the custom shroud i have to make to cover the top of the ITB's to get the charge pipes to go on....

:dunno:</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can get a plenum made to fit around the throttle bodies or - if they're a particular brand - you may be able to contact the manufacturer and ask if they have and prefabricated units in stock.

1.) Yes, you absolutely CAN use ITBs and forced induction. Tony the Tiger - one of the best tuners on this site - has a 12.5:1 compression, ITB turbocharged GSR. The thing is ******* NUTS, but it stays together only because of the quality of the tune.

2.) in the long run, although it's doable, the ITBs are going to make your turbo dreams more complicated and far more expensive. I'd get an aftermarket intake manifold and bore-matched throttle body after selling the ITBs for a massive profit

3.) ITBs are safe to use with anything, they're just difficult to tune. I know your original question was about that, so I decided to address it. They simply allow air into your engine through different pathways while atomizing fuel more completely (if injector placement is good), and thus are very unlikely to harm anything so long as they're tuned correctly.

Any more questions?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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TWM Induction makes an air box to go over their ITB's. You would need something like that to run FI and ITB's.

TWM Induction - Air Boxes
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