been driving manual for about 1 year. was wondering what all of you do first when braking. do you guys clutch first or brake first? my friend told me to brake first because i will always have control of my car until im fully stopped. just wanted to know

 

i clutch in...coast with no gears engaged...if i need control...i release the clutch

 

I just don't think about it and it happens naturally. My driving isn't choreographed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dogginator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just don't think about it and it happens naturally. My driving isn't choreographed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

AHhaha, i usually clutch, coast, brake..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20acura &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">been driving manual for about 1 year. was wondering what all of you do first when braking. do you guys clutch first or brake first? my friend told me to brake first because i will always have control of my car until im fully stopped. just wanted to know </TD></TR></TABLE>

Brake first. Use the engine compression for free braking power, saves the brakes from unnecessary wear, and most Honda engines run no fuel when engine braking anyway, so its even less gas use then pressing in the clutch (minimal gains though).

I'll usually do a rev matched downshift first, then brake in gear, and press the clutch when the engine is around idle rpm in whatever gear the first downshift leaves me.

Really though, the proper procedure is brake, heel and toe downshift rev matching while still braking, until stopped in first gear.

 

clutch, let it roll on neutral then brake......

 

i usually clutch in, holding down clutch and press brake at the same time, is this bad?

 

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not as long as your clutch is adjusted properly and completely disengages when the pedal is pressed

 

Brake first then clutch to downshift.

 

Clutch, coast brake. We are not driving at LEMANS so use normal driving techniques

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brake first. Use the engine compression for free braking power, saves the brakes from unnecessary wear, and most Honda engines run no fuel when engine braking anyway, so its even less gas use then pressing in the clutch (minimal gains though).

I'll usually do a rev matched downshift first, then brake in gear, and press the clutch when the engine is around idle rpm in whatever gear the first downshift leaves me.

Really though, the proper procedure is brake, heel and toe downshift rev matching while still braking, until stopped in first gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol you're right but its so annoying when you ride with someone who drives like that,my friend drives like hes driving an indy car on the street.


I personally deploy my parachute whenever i need to break. You know you gotta stop fast when you live your life a quarter-mile at a time.

 

i just brake and let the engine come down w/ engine braking until like 1500 or 1000 rpm then clutch in.

u use more gas idling then engine braking.. (the momentum of the car spins the motor.)

 

If coming to a stop I put the car in neutral and apply the necessary amount of brake. If slowing down for traffic but not stopping, I will downshift to the correct gear and rev match. No need in downshifting all the way to stop the car for a red light. The brakes were put on the car for a reason, might as well use them.

 

kick push, kick push, kick push, kick push... COASSSSTTTT.

i don't think about it... i'm too lazy so i just take the car out of gear, and use my breaks.

 

omfg.....are you kidding me?

 

just use the brakes until you feel the engine start to give a little hint of shudder, then clutch in. you actually save gas by keeping it in gear during the stop. the amount of fuel needed to keep the engine running with no application of the throttle at 3000rpm is less than the amount of fuel needed to idle the engine.

 

^seriously? how is that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CAVTECSol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just use the brakes until you feel the engine start to give a little hint of shudder, then clutch in. you actually save gas by keeping it in gear during the stop. the amount of fuel needed to keep the engine running with no application of the throttle at 3000rpm is less than the amount of fuel needed to idle the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you really think it will save you enough that you will ever notice?

 

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Brake first. Use the engine compression for free braking power, saves the brakes from unnecessary wear, and most Honda engines run no fuel when engine braking anyway, so its even less gas use then pressing in the clutch (minimal gains though).

I'll usually do a rev matched downshift first, then brake in gear, and press the clutch when the engine is around idle rpm in whatever gear the first downshift leaves me.

Really though, the proper procedure is brake, heel and toe downshift rev matching while still braking, until stopped in first gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ditto. I will heel toe 1 or 2 gear down, and shift straight to neutral before stop. It depends.

Clutch in first is obviously wrong .
1. Didnt make use of the help of engine braking ( not always a good idea tho)
2. If you suddenly need power, you are out of gear.

Its not even Lemans technique, its common sense.


The emphasis of braking/shifting footwork goes a lot way. Learn it right. BRAKE always comes in first, and is the most important part. IF you have doubt, look at videos (BM or hot version), or pick up a driving technique book written by a race driver.