H&R Coilover - Swapping springs question
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The rear springs on my H&R coilovers seem rather short or something is wrong with them. I have the adjustable perch up nearly at the top of the threaded body itself, yet my car is pretty low in the rear. the range for the height adjustability is .75 - 2.5in so I believe I can go higher than I am currently.
I have a set of front H&R sport springs from a 92 eg. The spring rates between the ones I have on the coilover right now and the EG sport springs are very close. Will I have any issues with ride comfort or handling by swapping the rears with the eg fronts? Any general help is appreciated.
I have a set of front H&R sport springs from a 92 eg. The spring rates between the ones I have on the coilover right now and the EG sport springs are very close. Will I have any issues with ride comfort or handling by swapping the rears with the eg fronts? Any general help is appreciated.
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Generally, can you throw a set of front springs on a rear coilover body and have an identical feeling ride and control, given this criteria:
-Spring rates are near identical
-Diameter of spring is identical
-Both springs are Progressive
Generally, can you throw a set of front springs on a rear coilover body and have an identical feeling ride and control, given this criteria:
-Spring rates are near identical
-Diameter of spring is identical
-Both springs are Progressive
Maybe I missed something, or maybe I'm not totally understanding your question, but...
Other than physical dimensions, there is nothing that says a spring that normally went in the front of a car cannot be put in the back of the car. A 500lb spring will be a 500lb spring whether its in the front of the car, or in the back of the car.
If the 92 EG spring fits on your rear shocks, and the rates are the same, then you will not have issues.
Other than physical dimensions, there is nothing that says a spring that normally went in the front of a car cannot be put in the back of the car. A 500lb spring will be a 500lb spring whether its in the front of the car, or in the back of the car.
If the 92 EG spring fits on your rear shocks, and the rates are the same, then you will not have issues.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe I missed something, or maybe I'm not totally understanding your question, but...
Other than physical dimensions, there is nothing that says a spring that normally went in the front of a car cannot be put in the back of the car. A 500lb spring will be a 500lb spring whether its in the front of the car, or in the back of the car.
If the 92 EG spring fits on your rear shocks, and the rates are the same, then you will not have issues. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Bingo. Thats the answer I was looking for. I thought the same, but I was reading other posts I searched regarding throwing front springs in the rear and it led me to asking this question.
Other than physical dimensions, there is nothing that says a spring that normally went in the front of a car cannot be put in the back of the car. A 500lb spring will be a 500lb spring whether its in the front of the car, or in the back of the car.
If the 92 EG spring fits on your rear shocks, and the rates are the same, then you will not have issues. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Bingo. Thats the answer I was looking for. I thought the same, but I was reading other posts I searched regarding throwing front springs in the rear and it led me to asking this question.
Hey man,
I'm in the same boat. I have an EG hatch with the full H&R Coilovers and I have the rear spring purches up so high in the shock body, and the car still is very low. On the other hand the front is the complete opposite; the spring purches are the whole way down to get the stance I'm looking for with the back. The rear spings seems to be designed short where as the front springs seems to be designed to long?
Please comment...
I'm in the same boat. I have an EG hatch with the full H&R Coilovers and I have the rear spring purches up so high in the shock body, and the car still is very low. On the other hand the front is the complete opposite; the spring purches are the whole way down to get the stance I'm looking for with the back. The rear spings seems to be designed short where as the front springs seems to be designed to long?
Please comment...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93Civic_hb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey man,
I'm in the same boat. I have an EG hatch with the full H&R Coilovers and I have the rear spring purches up so high in the shock body, and the car still is very low. On the other hand the front is the complete opposite; the spring purches are the whole way down to get the stance I'm looking for with the back. The rear spings seems to be designed short where as the front springs seems to be designed to long?
Please comment...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, the EG and DC coilover share the same part numbers from H&R. We definitely are on the same boat. I'm not sure if I put the coilover together incorrectly, or maybe put the wrong springs with the wrong shock. But I thought I correctly read the supplement regarding which spring went where on the car. From my knowledge, the way to increase the range of adjustment is finding a longer spring to replace it with. This is why I had the idea in mind.
Let me ask you this: did you buy your coilovers new or used?
Modified by EnjoyTheRideDC2 at 10:35 PM 9/11/2006
I'm in the same boat. I have an EG hatch with the full H&R Coilovers and I have the rear spring purches up so high in the shock body, and the car still is very low. On the other hand the front is the complete opposite; the spring purches are the whole way down to get the stance I'm looking for with the back. The rear spings seems to be designed short where as the front springs seems to be designed to long?
Please comment...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, the EG and DC coilover share the same part numbers from H&R. We definitely are on the same boat. I'm not sure if I put the coilover together incorrectly, or maybe put the wrong springs with the wrong shock. But I thought I correctly read the supplement regarding which spring went where on the car. From my knowledge, the way to increase the range of adjustment is finding a longer spring to replace it with. This is why I had the idea in mind.
Let me ask you this: did you buy your coilovers new or used?
Modified by EnjoyTheRideDC2 at 10:35 PM 9/11/2006
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well...here's my experience with full H&R coilovers on my eg...
i switched the springs...i used the front ones in the rear...and the rear ones goes to the front...and the ride suck!
i mean literally bouncing every uneven road....i thought it will not be a big deal but i was wrong.
my coilovers is set to the lowest setting possible....of course after i switched it back it runs very nice...i have these coilovers on 3 of my civics for more than a year...can't complain about it.
so i don't think switching the springs is a good idea...just my .02
i switched the springs...i used the front ones in the rear...and the rear ones goes to the front...and the ride suck!
i mean literally bouncing every uneven road....i thought it will not be a big deal but i was wrong.
my coilovers is set to the lowest setting possible....of course after i switched it back it runs very nice...i have these coilovers on 3 of my civics for more than a year...can't complain about it.
so i don't think switching the springs is a good idea...just my .02
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by apm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well...here's my experience with full H&R coilovers on my eg...
i switched the springs...i used the front ones in the rear...and the rear ones goes to the front...and the ride suck!
i mean literally bouncing every uneven road....i thought it will not be a big deal but i was wrong.
my coilovers is set to the lowest setting possible....of course after i switched it back it runs very nice...i have these coilovers on 3 of my civics for more than a year...can't complain about it.
so i don't think switching the springs is a good idea...just my .02
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Well, here's my experience with H&R's on 2 of my Integra DB8's -
My coilovers are set about 8 threads up from the bottom in the front, and about 30 turns up in the rear. And thats just to get them to sit at a near even stance. The car is low, but I like it that way.
What I'm trying to do is retain the orignial front coilover/spring setup, and use a EG Front H&R Sport Spring on the rear coilover shock. Therefore, i'll be running 2 sets of front springs on my car. The EG front sport spring is similar to the DC rear coilover spring in terms of spring rate. The major difference is the spring length.
i switched the springs...i used the front ones in the rear...and the rear ones goes to the front...and the ride suck!
i mean literally bouncing every uneven road....i thought it will not be a big deal but i was wrong.
my coilovers is set to the lowest setting possible....of course after i switched it back it runs very nice...i have these coilovers on 3 of my civics for more than a year...can't complain about it.
so i don't think switching the springs is a good idea...just my .02
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Well, here's my experience with H&R's on 2 of my Integra DB8's -
My coilovers are set about 8 threads up from the bottom in the front, and about 30 turns up in the rear. And thats just to get them to sit at a near even stance. The car is low, but I like it that way.
What I'm trying to do is retain the orignial front coilover/spring setup, and use a EG Front H&R Sport Spring on the rear coilover shock. Therefore, i'll be running 2 sets of front springs on my car. The EG front sport spring is similar to the DC rear coilover spring in terms of spring rate. The major difference is the spring length.
I've been thinking about tossing these coilovers and getting the Tein Flex kit for sometime now but don't feel like spending the 1,300.00.
Is this an oem style spring on the coilovers or a race type spring like on the GC's? Maybe I can help you guys out since h&r doesnt seem to be doing much for you.
Ryan
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this an oem style spring on the coilovers or a race type spring like on the GC's? Maybe I can help you guys out since h&r doesnt seem to be doing much for you.
Ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>
On the coilover from H&R is an OEM style, linear rate spring, from my understanding.
<U>Rated Load on the H&R springs are as follows - </U>
Front Springs - 7KG / 385 lbs/in
Rear Springs - 5KG / 263 lbs/in
Here are a couple pictures to maybe help give a visual idea.
Tein Basic Front Vs. H&R Front Coilover -


The spring I was planning to install in the REAR, to replace the one that came with the coilover is - H&R Sport Spring, 92-95 Civic EG FRONT spring set.
The reason I chose this spring is its spring rate is at 265 lbs/in. So in a sense, this is just a longer version spring of what I currently have in the rear coilover assembly. The rear spring that comes with the h&r coilover is about an inch or two shorter than the front.
Any help or correction of understanding is appreciated.
Modified by EnjoyTheRideDC2 at 7:20 AM 9/19/2006
Ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>
On the coilover from H&R is an OEM style, linear rate spring, from my understanding.
<U>Rated Load on the H&R springs are as follows - </U>
Front Springs - 7KG / 385 lbs/in
Rear Springs - 5KG / 263 lbs/in
Here are a couple pictures to maybe help give a visual idea.
Tein Basic Front Vs. H&R Front Coilover -
The spring I was planning to install in the REAR, to replace the one that came with the coilover is - H&R Sport Spring, 92-95 Civic EG FRONT spring set.
The reason I chose this spring is its spring rate is at 265 lbs/in. So in a sense, this is just a longer version spring of what I currently have in the rear coilover assembly. The rear spring that comes with the h&r coilover is about an inch or two shorter than the front.
Any help or correction of understanding is appreciated.
Modified by EnjoyTheRideDC2 at 7:20 AM 9/19/2006
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