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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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so i just finishd swap...

Now whenever i try to start the car, it doesnt start. Only thing i noticed is that in the dash on the driver side i can hear clicking when i turn the key.. whats clicking?

i had this problem before and for the life of me i cant remeber what it is/was.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flaxx0r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i just finishd swap...

Now whenever i try to start the car, it doesnt start. Only thing i noticed is that in the dash on the driver side i can hear clicking when i turn the key.. whats clicking?

i had this problem before and for the life of me i cant remeber what it is/was.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Does it click when you turn the key to start or run?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Try propane during cranking. If it starts, then your problem is fuel delivery. If nothing, It's getting no spark/maybe no fuel.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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it start as soon as um... i turn power to the car, start or run.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by babyhoohey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try propane during cranking. If it starts, then your problem is fuel delivery. If nothing, It's getting no spark/maybe no fuel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Try starter fluid, not propane!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flaxx0r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it start as soon as um... i turn power to the car, start or run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's probably your fuel pump priming.

Whenever a car won't start check 3 main things first. Fuel, Spark, and Timing.

Make sure all four spark plugs are firing, make sure they are getting fuel, and if both of those are right, make sure the rotor and timing is right.

When my distributor bearings went bad they melted the rotor causing it to be out of whack with the timing. I had fuel, I had spark, but the two were not happening at the same time cause the timing was way off.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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clicking from the relay is normal...have u checked ur #14 fuse? do u got spark? fuel?checked timing?codes?low battery?
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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what all dd u have to swap to put in the b16
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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not to be post stealer but i'm having th same problem 90 hb with b16 swap and pr3 ecu. i'm throwing a code 5 and i'm not getting spark. does anybody have any ideas or other things to look for?????? TIA
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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#1 check spark
stick i philips head screw driver in the spark plug end of the spark plug wire either one doesent mater. ground the screw driver to the head while in the plug then crank the motor if you have spark then good try all other cylinders and your good there. and if no spark either look into a new distributor or srat testing and replacing distributor parts one by one or swap them out with your old obd-0 distributor.

#2 check fuel
the main relay should click once the key is put into the on position on the ignition. normaly you will here a hmmmmmmmm and that is the fuel pump building pressure in the fuel line and fuel rail for start up. if you really want to know if its working or not just have afriend sit right infront of the driverside whell with his head undernieth the car. turn the ket to on and if he hears no hmmm then your fuel pump aint getting power or is out. most likly just a bad main relay. another way for quik check it just remove the fuel rail with injectors attached aplly pressure from the injectors to the fuel rail and have a friend turn the motor over a few tmes and check for each injector to fire fuel out.

#check timing
when i first bought my b16 i guess the timing was off by at least 180 degrees at the crank. so mine was horrible check the timing marks on the block and crank pully then once those are lined up check the cam gears for the arrows on the gears to be pointing stait up and the lines on the gear to be parrallel with the head. also some people put the dizzy in backwards somtimes so check that also.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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#1 check spark
stick i philips head screw driver in the spark plug end of the spark plug wire either one doesent mater. then crank the motor if you have spark then good try all other cylinders and your good there. and if no spark either look into a new distributor or srat testing and replacing distributor parts one by one or swap them out with your old obd-0 distributor.

#2 check fuel
the main relay should click once the key is put into the on position on the ignition. normaly you will here a hmmmmmmmm and that is the fuel pump building pressure in the fuel line and fuel rail for start up. if you really want to know if its working or not just have afriend sit right infront of the driverside whell with his head undernieth the car. turn the ket to on and if he hears no hmmm then your fuel pump aint getting power or is out. most likly just a bad main relay. another way for quik check it just remove the fuel rail with injectors attached aplly pressure from the injectors to the fuel rail and have a friend turn the motor over a few tmes and check for each injector to fire fuel out.

#check timing
when i first bought my b16 i guess the timing was off by at least 180 degrees at the crank. so mine was horrible check the timing marks on the block and crank pully then once those are lined up check the cam gears for the arrows on the gears to be pointing stait up and the lines on the gear to be parrallel with the head. also some people put the dizzy in backwards somtimes so check that also.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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as i already stated above i already know thats i'm not getting spark so i dont need to know how to test that. I am gettng fuel to the motor. i want to know why i'm not getting spark and why a code 5 is blinking on the ecu and what i can look for to fix it.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Default Re: b16 wont start.. (flaxx0r)

It could be an ignition switch or just something grounding out because the battery doesn't have enough charge.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Battery is fully charged, the motor turns over but thats it. any more ideas????
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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anybody?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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if your engine turns over its not your battery which leaves you with either spark or fuel.. check your dizzy and your fuel like he just said....

And to the OP

The clicking you hear is that when you try to turn the car over or is that when you put it in the on position? If it is when you are trying to start the car and it is continuosly clicking its coming from your starter so you most likely should check your battery and terminals make sure they are not loose.

Now if its a single click when you put it into on position, all it is, is the fuel pump priming which is perfectly normal and you should be glad to hear it priming
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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did u remember to tighten the ground on the thermostat housing??? i had the exact same problem and after i correctly connected the ground the car started up right away...lemme know what happens
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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have ur ignition check out replace the starter and starter fuse etc... check ur timing make sure the cam settings all match up to the belt and so on
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Thanks for all the good replys, starter was tested and its good, all fuses are intact.ground on the t-stat housing is bolted down..... i dont what gives... any more help is accepted... thanks
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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BUT DO YOU HAVE FUEL AND SPARK!!!!

Ill explain::::

Your car runs on fire, there are three things that fire needs to burn, spark, fuel and air, if you do not have all 3 of them then you have no fire then you have no running engine....
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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BUT DO YOU HAVE FUEL AND SPARK!!!!

Ill explain::::

Your car runs on fire, there are three things that fire needs to burn, spark, fuel and air, if you do not have all 3 of them then you have no fire then you have no running engine....[/QUOTE]


THANKS CHEIF, tells us all something we dont already know. let me explain..... if you can freakin read i already said above that i dont have spark.... i'm looking for reason and maybe something that i missed that some body might have an idea on..[QUOTE=philkehn]
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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so i double checked my wiring but still no spark i'm getting power to the dizzy and power to the coil but still no fire.. any other ideas???
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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did you add wires from your ecu for your crank angle?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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check the wiring again. i big mistake people make is the two white wires from the dizzy get mixed up. swap them around and try again. and if that dont work take my advice abouve and start replacing dizzy parts you *****.
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