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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Default Brake set up...Is there a difference between Civic Si Calipers and GSR or ITR

looking for a nice but innexpensive brake set up for my civic thinking of

brembo crossed drilled and slotted rotors
with a hawk HP+ pad
__?__ brake fluid
and __?__ stainless steel lines
__?___ calipers (or keep mine?)

the car is a 99 civic si putting down roughly 450whp can someone help me with this set up?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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late night (for ohio) bump help me out!
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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ditch the drilled and slotted rotors. less rotor mass means less metal to deal with brake heat (heatsink), which means faster and less gradual cooling/expansion of metal; warped rotors and uneeded stress risers on the drilled holes.

get good pads, the hp+ will be fine for you for now, if you do some serious HPDE or open track days and track/road courses, upgrade your compound. i would suggest Cobalt Fritction GT Sports over the hp+. Or carbotech bobcats.

for fluid ATE super blue or typ200 works well.

for SS lines, technafit are great and inexpensive.

Just rememeber, there are many consumable items in brakes. Rotors, pads, brake lines, wheel bearings from heat, ball joints from heat. I would duct air lines to the brakes to help cool them down if you are having overheating issues.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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i wouldn't get HP+ since they are a track pad, i would get HPS since those are meant for the street, also if you are going to upgrade calipers, i would go for the type r, there is no real difference in changing from si to gsr calipers, the benefit from changing to type r calipers is that you can run a bigger rotor, the braided lines are a good idea, just get something like earl's or russel or goodrich, they aren't terribly expensive compared to the technafits. if you upgrade brake fluid make sure you flush out the system well, and don't mix incompatible fluids.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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I was originally going to run the stoptech kit but money issues have me rethinking that and at 450whp the car is going to be something I would like to take to the track and run slicks on so i guess the stock stuff would be better in this case. I looked in a lot of magazines etc and most of your 800 hp hondas (full race geoff, the car on the front of this months HT) all run slotted and drilled stock size. is it really better to run brembo blanks? and should i stick with the stock si calipers then? thanks
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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The differences between si calipers and teg calipers are that the way the pad sits in the bracket is different and the piston is larger. I wouldn't say the larger piston is an upgrade though. It would just screw up your brake bias. If you were going to upgrade I would go with the ITR calipers and prelude VTEC rotors if you weren't wanting to spend much money. Keep in mind if you were to do that you wouldn't be able to use wheels any smaller than a 15"
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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how are you going to say using a gsr brake caliper will screw up brake bias then tell him to upgrade to an itr caliper or prelude one. i dont get it.
it wont mess with anything all civics and tegs had the same rear disk brakes. upgrading to a dc2 caliper will be just like intregra brakes in a civic.

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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will my stock calipers with goodridge lines, the right fluid, drilled rotors and fluid be enough for this build up is really what i'm asking i guess. I dont wnat to get too much wrapped up in it bc I may eventually do stop tech big brake kit
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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the blank rotors are fine. dont waste your time and resources on slotted or drilled rotors, they are just more prone to cracking and such because the drilled holes introduce stress risers in the rotor. Today's pad compounds do not gas-out like pads of eariler day did.

If you want better rotors than autozone blanks or brembo blanks, get you hands on some blank cryo-treated rotors.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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cool bump more input
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