Spoon Calipers
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Re: Spoon Calipers (Moto-hashiriya)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Moto-hashiriya »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really? Is that why they go into detail in their catalog about what spacer to use with what wheels? Please do not make uneducated comments.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...d=437
Well someone must be wrong
http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/...d=437
Well someone must be wrong
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Re: Spoon Calipers (Earthworm Jim)
They are mostly right in their wording though. They are a direct fit but you may have to change out rotors depending on applications. But for wheel fitment what they say in their catalog:
EK9 stock wheels OK/DC2 98spec 7mm spacer/S2K stock BBS wheels 15mm spacer/etc etc
Always best to contact Spoon at http://www.spoon.jp or one of their distributors like A&J Racing or Opak Racing
EK9 stock wheels OK/DC2 98spec 7mm spacer/S2K stock BBS wheels 15mm spacer/etc etc
Always best to contact Spoon at http://www.spoon.jp or one of their distributors like A&J Racing or Opak Racing
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Re: Spoon Calipers (Moto-hashiriya)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Moto-hashiriya »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are mostly right in their wording though. They are a direct fit but you may have to change out rotors depending on applications. But for wheel fitment what they say in their catalog:
EK9 stock wheels OK/DC2 98spec 7mm spacer/S2K stock BBS wheels 15mm spacer/etc etc
Always best to contact Spoon at http://www.spoon.jp or one of their distributors like A&J Racing or Opak Racing </TD></TR></TABLE>
But seeing how the orginal poster didn't even mention what kind of car he's driving it's kind of hard to assume he'll need spacers right? So so how was the comment uneducated Matter of fact, we've done more talking then him. In order for someone to make an "uneducated" remark, they'd have to be educated in the first place. The poster hasn't mentioned anything about his vehicle so who's to say that I'm uneducated. Don't be an *** clown and ask more questions to because you blurt comments like that
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EK9 stock wheels OK/DC2 98spec 7mm spacer/S2K stock BBS wheels 15mm spacer/etc etc
Always best to contact Spoon at http://www.spoon.jp or one of their distributors like A&J Racing or Opak Racing
</TD></TR></TABLE>But seeing how the orginal poster didn't even mention what kind of car he's driving it's kind of hard to assume he'll need spacers right? So so how was the comment uneducated
Matter of fact, we've done more talking then him. In order for someone to make an "uneducated" remark, they'd have to be educated in the first place. The poster hasn't mentioned anything about his vehicle so who's to say that I'm uneducated. Don't be an *** clown and ask more questions to because you blurt comments like that /Thread
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Re: Spoon Calipers (Mr. Furley)
i'm not sure if this helps... on my EK4 the rota slipstream 16x7 +40 fits over the calipers with about 2mm clearance, but i put on 5mm spacers just for abit more peace of mind
from what i know, the 15x6.5 +45 SW388's do not clear spoon calipers without a spacer, but the 16" SW388 in 16x7 +45 does clear by a whisker...in general, the spoon/regamaster type of rim doesn't clear big calipers very well due to the recessed spokes, in most cases you'll end up using a spacer.. my previous black racing 15x7 +42 cleared without a problem
from what i know, the 15x6.5 +45 SW388's do not clear spoon calipers without a spacer, but the 16" SW388 in 16x7 +45 does clear by a whisker...in general, the spoon/regamaster type of rim doesn't clear big calipers very well due to the recessed spokes, in most cases you'll end up using a spacer.. my previous black racing 15x7 +42 cleared without a problem
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Re: Spoon Calipers (Earthworm Jim)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Earthworm Jim »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In order for someone to make an "uneducated" remark, they'd have to be educated in the first place.
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not true. if someone is educated and they make an incorrect comment, it just means they're trying to act like they know more than they really do or maybe they just mixed up facts. someone who has never been in the military telling someone what it is like to be in the military would be uneducated.
In order for someone to make an "uneducated" remark, they'd have to be educated in the first place.
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not true. if someone is educated and they make an incorrect comment, it just means they're trying to act like they know more than they really do or maybe they just mixed up facts. someone who has never been in the military telling someone what it is like to be in the military would be uneducated.
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Re: Spoon Calipers (Earthworm Jim)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Earthworm Jim »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You shouldn't need any wheel spacers, Spoon is set to stock specs </TD></TR></TABLE>
WRONG!
</TD></TR></TABLE>WRONG!
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THE FACT IS!!!
You CAN roll with a 15'' wheel with SPOON calipers as long as the offset is 35.
Most knock offs are only 40 or 38 offset.
that's why real Spoon sw388 were available in a 35 offset.
(NOTE: Work Emotion wheel is a great alternative.... if you can afford them LOL.
Spoon race team uses them quite regularly. )
anything greater than a 35 such as 32 or 30 offset will rub fender. fender will have to be rolled out or you can put washers when mounting your fender which will make your fender slightly stick out further than your door.
It is done this way in the Spoon '95 4dr civic.
Furthermore, if you drive an EK or EG (and I use those codes loosely, but you know what I mean.) You will have to swap out knuckles & bearings for '94 up integras. Reason being is that it will give you proper mounting clearance for mounting your new SPOON brakes.
OH YEAH, and you'll need extended hub bolts like drag car racers use too.
True EG SIR models from Japan don't need to swap out knuckles. (One up on us again,...lucky bastards. LOL)
Trust us, we've spent countless hours mix matching and test fitting a few years back.
But it's all worth it.
However, one itsy bit of advice. Once the install is complete. Test your brakes around the block a few times and pump the $hit out of them. If they feel spongey, it's because your firewall is fluctuating. The pressure is so great placed on the master brake cylinder (MBC) that it will actually move slightly. Test the theory with a friend. Pop the hood and have one pump the brakes while car is running and the other person can check the MBC.
That is why companies like CARBING produce a front upper strut bar with a MBC brace incorporated in to it.
SOME PEOPLE already spent a crap load of money on their existing strut bar, now I have to spend 250ish on a new one???
NO!
We have a Master Brake Cylinder Brace comming out shortly....
(good lucky kiddies, the Cusco one only works on right hand drive applications for EK & EG.)
hope the info helps.
email us if you have questions. jemmarck@hotmail.com
Modified by JEM MotorSports at 2:16 PM 9/10/2006
You CAN roll with a 15'' wheel with SPOON calipers as long as the offset is 35.
Most knock offs are only 40 or 38 offset.
that's why real Spoon sw388 were available in a 35 offset.
(NOTE: Work Emotion wheel is a great alternative.... if you can afford them LOL.
Spoon race team uses them quite regularly. )
anything greater than a 35 such as 32 or 30 offset will rub fender. fender will have to be rolled out or you can put washers when mounting your fender which will make your fender slightly stick out further than your door.
It is done this way in the Spoon '95 4dr civic.
Furthermore, if you drive an EK or EG (and I use those codes loosely, but you know what I mean.) You will have to swap out knuckles & bearings for '94 up integras. Reason being is that it will give you proper mounting clearance for mounting your new SPOON brakes.
OH YEAH, and you'll need extended hub bolts like drag car racers use too.
True EG SIR models from Japan don't need to swap out knuckles. (One up on us again,...lucky bastards. LOL)
Trust us, we've spent countless hours mix matching and test fitting a few years back.
But it's all worth it.
However, one itsy bit of advice. Once the install is complete. Test your brakes around the block a few times and pump the $hit out of them. If they feel spongey, it's because your firewall is fluctuating. The pressure is so great placed on the master brake cylinder (MBC) that it will actually move slightly. Test the theory with a friend. Pop the hood and have one pump the brakes while car is running and the other person can check the MBC.
That is why companies like CARBING produce a front upper strut bar with a MBC brace incorporated in to it.
SOME PEOPLE already spent a crap load of money on their existing strut bar, now I have to spend 250ish on a new one???
NO!
We have a Master Brake Cylinder Brace comming out shortly....
(good lucky kiddies, the Cusco one only works on right hand drive applications for EK & EG.)
hope the info helps.
email us if you have questions. jemmarck@hotmail.com
Modified by JEM MotorSports at 2:16 PM 9/10/2006
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Re: (JEM MotorSports)
So this conv http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=2
Wont work on a US 95US hatch unless you swap the knuckes out?
Wont work on a US 95US hatch unless you swap the knuckes out?
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Re: (CarbonEGG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CarbonEGG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So this conv http://www.aj-racing.com/catal...age=2
Wont work on a US 95US hatch unless you swap the knuckes out?</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, well, well,... if it isn't carbonEG...
Yes, the above statement is correct for U.S. market '92-'95 civic hatchbacks.
We went back & forth with Spoon R&D on a dialy basis via emails untill we concluded these matters. Dozens of pictures were taken with multiple variations of install. You may notice the pics above are labeled "5" & "6".
Just like the rear fog light situation, I hate speculations. The only way to resolve them is to do them yourself and post up WITH PICS!!!
Do I care about the Honda community?
yeah,.. you might say something like that...
be sure to check out the pics of past JDM Mondays on link below.
It's not just the R&D that we are concerned about but hosting as well...
Wont work on a US 95US hatch unless you swap the knuckes out?</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, well, well,... if it isn't carbonEG...
Yes, the above statement is correct for U.S. market '92-'95 civic hatchbacks.
We went back & forth with Spoon R&D on a dialy basis via emails untill we concluded these matters. Dozens of pictures were taken with multiple variations of install. You may notice the pics above are labeled "5" & "6".
Just like the rear fog light situation, I hate speculations. The only way to resolve them is to do them yourself and post up WITH PICS!!!
Do I care about the Honda community?
yeah,.. you might say something like that...
be sure to check out the pics of past JDM Mondays on link below.
It's not just the R&D that we are concerned about but hosting as well...
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Re: (JEM MotorSports)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JEM MotorSports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well, well, well,... if it isn't carbonEG...
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ROFL, you know whats even funny that when you made the rear fog light thread here I was replying and didnt even know who you were, lol
Then I went back to the other forum and i was like WTF, same **** from h-t, lol
Good Times
We went at it for a minute, cant stop laughing at the pic you posted of Mencia, lol at you.
well, well, well,... if it isn't carbonEG...
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ROFL, you know whats even funny that when you made the rear fog light thread here I was replying and didnt even know who you were, lol
Then I went back to the other forum and i was like WTF, same **** from h-t, lol
Good Times
We went at it for a minute, cant stop laughing at the pic you posted of Mencia, lol at you.
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Re: (JEM MotorSports)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JEM MotorSports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You CAN roll with a 15'' wheel with SPOON calipers as long as the offset is 35....
that's why real Spoon sw388 were available in a 35 offset</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most of the Spoon wheels you are ever going to run across are +45 offset in both 16" and 15" sizes.
You CAN roll with a 15'' wheel with SPOON calipers as long as the offset is 35....
that's why real Spoon sw388 were available in a 35 offset</TD></TR></TABLE>
Most of the Spoon wheels you are ever going to run across are +45 offset in both 16" and 15" sizes.
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Re: (George Knighton)
+35 offest on 15x6.5 4x100 Spoon wheels? Really??? I'm sure you guys are aware of the more popular +45 version, right? I've seen way more +45 than +35 15'' Spoon wheels. Regas are a totally different story - the OP needs to specify what width and offset Regas he has. Therse are my +45 Spoons. I thought +35 was more like special order or some ****...
These Spoons are already pretty close to my damn GS-R brakes, much less some Spoon calipers with larger 11'' rotors - I'm pretty sure I'd need a 10mm spacer if I were to run Spoon calipers:
Just some food for thought.
These Spoons are already pretty close to my damn GS-R brakes, much less some Spoon calipers with larger 11'' rotors - I'm pretty sure I'd need a 10mm spacer if I were to run Spoon calipers:
Just some food for thought.
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Re: (Mr. Furley)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Furley »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its a 42 or 45 offset. I dont remember for sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
^^^ best response yet. gotta love it.
42?,.. 45?
Sounds exactly like the response on the old school movie Mr. Mom with Micheal Keeton when he's asked what size frame support did he use and he responds "2x4s, 2x5s, you know... what ever it takes."
He obviously has no F'n clue WTF he's talk'n about.... too funny.
The reason any of us would be so particular on the offset is because that is how critical the dimensions are. If you are off by even 1mm, it could determine a successfull or unsuccessfull install.
but hay, what do I know... I only provided the pics which clearly show the minimal amount of clearance
^^^ best response yet. gotta love it.
42?,.. 45?
Sounds exactly like the response on the old school movie Mr. Mom with Micheal Keeton when he's asked what size frame support did he use and he responds "2x4s, 2x5s, you know... what ever it takes."
He obviously has no F'n clue WTF he's talk'n about.... too funny.
The reason any of us would be so particular on the offset is because that is how critical the dimensions are. If you are off by even 1mm, it could determine a successfull or unsuccessfull install.
but hay, what do I know... I only provided the pics which clearly show the minimal amount of clearance