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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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JDM 4-lug Type R Wheels & Suspension
* 15" 96-spec JDM ITR Wheels
* 4x114 Bolt Pattern Complete Suspension Included
* 195/55/15 Tires
* Everything You Need To Bolt Right Up To Your Honda/Acura

This thing that jdmshit.com has...anyone know if it's the same as GSR brakes? Or is it better? Reason why I asked it because later on I want to do a brake swap to GSR so I want to know if it's the same or is it better? Cuz I know it says ITR which is integra type R but are they like USDM GSR almost in comparison? Should I order them??Any experiance of ordering this item from them anyone? Does it all bolt up? Will I need any additonal parts if I wanted for a brake swap? This is for a 95 coupe. Thanks if anyone can help
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMegCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
JDM 4-lug Type R Wheels & Suspension
* 15" 96-spec JDM ITR Wheels
* 4x114 Bolt Pattern Complete Suspension Included
* 195/55/15 Tires
* Everything You Need To Bolt Right Up To Your Honda/Acura

This thing that jdmshit.com has...anyone know if it's the same as GSR brakes? Or is it better? Reason why I asked it because later on I want to do a brake swap to GSR so I want to know if it's the same or is it better? Cuz I know it says ITR which is integra type R but are they like USDM GSR almost in comparison? Should I order them??Any experiance of ordering this item from them anyone? Does it all bolt up? Will I need any additonal parts if I wanted for a brake swap? This is for a 95 coupe. Thanks if anyone can help </TD></TR></TABLE> good question. i was debating buying the 4 lug type r setup but i was curious if it needed as much replacement parts as a 5 lug setup
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Yep, same calipers as GSR/LS/etc. In addition, aftermarket wheels that will fit that hub are next to nonexistant, or very pricey. Buy an Integra brake setup and save yourself money and a big hassle.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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not to thread jack or anything but is there an easier way....like using prelude or accord spindles and hubs???

i actually am running an H22 in my teg and if im correct that would prevent me from having to order hasport axles...the H22 axle would fit just right in the Prelude hub....J/W

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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Hmm...I have no idea actually. I've never heard of that being done.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stinkycheezmonky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm...I have no idea actually. I've never heard of that being done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good idea maybe????

especially because i have an H22

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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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If the spindle bolts up the same way and the geometry is the same, yeah, that'd be a great idea. I have no idea if that's the case though. You'd have to have both spindles and do some measuring to make sure everything would work ok.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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well i got the questions I guess I needed for this set up in the 92-00/del sol form so yall need anything about this set up check there too...but I guess might be too pricy for me to do plus the pads and stuff to deal with plus just cop me up some nice *** CTR recaros so yeah not buying anything for a bit just yet now....but later on I'll just do Ls/GSR swap instead cheaper! Just as good ....
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Not to mention its easier to buy brake discs, since JDM 4lug is 4x114.3 that is extremely rare, but USDM integras are 4x100. Plenty avilable at low cost.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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that's true so that's why I rather do ls/gsr now becasue of the pads and rotor and etc and etc. so yeah..but it won't be til next spring hopefully...the recaros got the last of my money for stuff on the ride....

OH yeah! Eh is the 99-00 si brake conversion any good? which is better the ls/gsr brakes or 99-00 si?????is the Si going for same price as ls/gsr too or no??anyways for answer if not oh well threads dead then guys
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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The '99-00 Si have different rear stuff I believe, different trailing arm and such, and most likely won't work. Even if it did, it wouldn't be any better than Integra stuff.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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So me being a 95 coupe I'm better off with ls/gsr then eh? If so okay when i have the fund that's what it'll be...gotta have stoping power prep for the swap otherwise be broke after the swap haha so yeah....thanks
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Man get the 4lug setup. You can get rotors from h-motors oem. Honda-tech is like the government full of people that pump bullshit in your head. You have your own mind don't let a bunch of teenagers tell what to put on your car.


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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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I understood maybe 1/4 of what you just said. Were you insulting all of us?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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Why pay more for the 4x114 when it's practically the same size as the 4x100 setup that costs less and has parts available everywhere? Unless you're dying for the 15" ITR wheels (which do look quite nice on a white hatch), why go through the hassle?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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i dunno i like my 4x114.3 setup. It is rare to have around...rims and parts for them arent that hard to find. I've done several searches on here and i found people who sell them on HT. Rims you can find at JDMland.com or on HT. They have a dedicated thread for those in search for 4x114.3 rims. GSR/LS setups are nice too. They're pretty much about the same. If you are on a budget then go GSR/LS.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chem Geek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why pay more for the 4x114 when it's practically the same size as the 4x100 setup that costs less and has parts available everywhere? Unless you're dying for the 15" ITR wheels (which do look quite nice on a white hatch), why go through the hassle?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They look good on many colored cars...check out mine

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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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They're also only 6 or 6.5" wide with a weak offset, not ideal for wide tires. That only REALLY matters if you're tracking the car though, I guess.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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450 shipped for the 4 lug conversion complete 300 if you don't ship
400 for 96 itr wheels
5 lug 1000-1200 for conversion
5 lug gunmetal or white rim 500-680
Your looking at a savings of about 600-700 dollars.
4x100 brake upgrade gsr fronts go for 250
And the rear disk setup 250 now you gotta get wheels which range anywhere from 600-2000 and if they are rare you can forget about getting a good deal especially on honda-tech.
I have rear drums so its a win win situation .
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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You can get the GS-R/LS setup for $275 front and rear.

If you're looking at the ITR 4x114 rims at 400 only fair to compare it with 4x100 15" OEM wheels (i.e. Si's, LS Mesh, Blades, etc.). Still, not that much more money to go with the 4x114 setup. Guess I'm just not dedicated enough to go for that. But those do look pretty sweet on your hatch.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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$250 for rear Integra disc stuff is a ripoff. Try $150 tops in the classifieds. Heck, even $250 for the fronts is pretty pricey. And $680 for OEM ITR wheels? Is that a joke? WTF are you finding a set of wheels for $2000? Even blingy Volks aren't more than $1600. I got my wheels for about $400 in the offset and width I want (4x100, 15x7, +38). They're not rare JDM bl!nG y0! but they're light, strong, and functional. If you're on a budget, there's no reason to have some unobtanium Mugen or Blitz or whatever the hell JDM ****.

And $450 shipped for front and rear 4x114.3 seems like a really good price, and certainly not the norm. Password has them for $500 unshipped, with the cheapest shipping price an additional $200. And just for kicks, I checked out 4x100 front and rears on that site. $130 (sale) for fronts, $180 for rears. Password isn't a bad company, but they're not giving **** away either. That's a $200 savings right off the bat.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by japspec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have your own mind don't let a bunch of teenagers tell what to put on your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're not a teenager, but you're "telling him what to put on his car" and your recommendation is by no means the most affordable method of upgrading his brakes. If you have such a thorough dislike of HT, why are you on it giving us your opinion on **** to do anyway?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by japspec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4x100 brake upgrade gsr fronts go for 250
And the rear disk setup 250 now you gotta get wheels which range anywhere from 600-2000 </TD></TR></TABLE>

You forgot about one thing: If you go with a 4x100 brake upgrade, you don't "gotta" get new wheels at all. Thats another $600-2000 savings... DOH!

And yes, your 4x100 brake prices are crazy high. HMotorsOnline.com sells integra front brakes/hubs/knuckles for only $75 a pair. Also, everybody needs to keep in mind that there is a lot more to do than just buying the brake parts. It is almost ALWAYS required to do a complete brake job on these parts when you buy them. Not to mention upgrading master cylinder for larger front brakes & proportioning valve for changing to rear discs...

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is almost ALWAYS required to do a complete brake job on these parts when you buy them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Got that right. Even if you just drive your car on the street, that's at least once when you have to find rotors and pads.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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You know I really can't stand when 3-4 muthafuckers all try to jump on me like they really offering anything worth 2 f*cks. So with that said
1. Oem rotors are sold at h-motors steve get em from japan.
2. The 4 lug doesn't cost over 450 shipped.
3. Passwordjdm and jdmland prices don't count bouth of those places sell ctr wings wings for $600 or more dollars so they aren't made to help you only themselves.
4. usdm and jdm 5x115.3 rims cost 500 or better with or without tires. ILLek want 680 for his, don't believe me go ask him.
5. 4 lug itr wheel best looking and lightest oem wheel honda has. The only other wheel that light is the 13inch vx wheel which is 9lbs.
6. I can say what I want I don't care if this is honda-tech, micro-tech, cyber-tech none you pay my bills.
7. I didn't tell him he had to buy the 4 lug, I f he wanted it he should get it but then he changed his mind and got recaros, but I bet all the 4x114.3 haters were the reason.
8. The next person to post after me and try to debate me probably gonna 1 out of the last three muthafuckers. I almost guarantee it.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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i sold my oem cw itr wheels for 400 with the oem tires still on them 80% thread left...

only cool thing about going 4x114.3 is you get to run some pretty cool wheels for very cheap from 240s. just go surfing on zilvia.net for some wheels.
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