OK so i'm curious as to which of these swaybars
will provide more/better resistance to bodyroll.

the progress is 22mm, and the jdmR is 23mm,
no clue as to if either is holllow or not.

the differences are this.
progress has half as many bends as the jdmR bar(only 4 vs at least 8 on the jdmR)
also the progress endlinks mount to the shock mount, where'as the jdmR mounts to the center of the LCA.

Any insight on this ?

 

There are just too many variables to consider. We can't just base on bar diameter, bends and attachment points alone. Since we don't know what material Honda and Progress uses it's really hard to tell which one is stiffer. Also progress uses poly bushings which stiffens the bar. If you ask me, I would go with an JDM ITR 23mm with poly bushings.

 

Progress makes the stiffest bars out there. Ask any true playa

 

really?

 

if ur talking about the front .. then the JDM itr front is 26.. not 23..

usdm gsr/itr is 24mm

ls is 22mm

 

both will tear out your subframe without a problem even if you do reinfoce it.
good luck.

 

nope, rear,

and the Rbar i'd use a asr or comptech tiebar

the progress attaches to the lca bolt, not a problem.

 

whats the swingarm length of the 2?

 

not sure what that means?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedjunky01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">both will tear out your subframe without a problem even if you do reinfoce it.
good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Total ignorance.

I run a 24mm adjustable progress bar since 2 years now w/o any subframe tear out problem. Look at the brackets....they're pretty simple AND pretty effective..I ran moderatly stiff springs with it (400 to 700). I really love the bar...

PS Rusted subframe wich have seen like 14 winters w/o rust protection are more prone to tear out than anything out there...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STN_Pat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Total ignorance.

I run a 24mm adjustable progress bar since 2 years now w/o any subframe tear out problem. Look at the brackets....they're pretty simple AND pretty effective..I ran moderatly stiff springs with it (400 to 700). I really love the bar...

PS Rusted subframe wich have seen like 14 winters w/o rust protection are more prone to tear out than anything out there...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Total ignorance.....
http://www.sohchonda.com/forum...frame

ran with the ASR subrframe reinfocement and a 22mm bar. the ITR was made to run it, it can be done but unless you just sit there and stare at the car or just drivt it on the track it will tear if you go to a parking garage or hit a bump or grove in the pavement just right.

 

Remember, the purpose of a swaybar is to transfer motion from one side of the suspension to the other, and this is done most effectively using 90° bends on the swaybar.

Swingarm length of the ITR bar is 5in and effective length is 5in as well since it has a 90° bend. The Progress however has a swingarm lenght of about 10in? but an effective lenght of about 4in? only since the arms are only bent 25-35°.

The only thing I can see wrong with the Progress bar is since the it has a longer arm, they might bend under load rather than twist the swaybar. This might reduces the transfer of motion. However, both bars are an effective way of increasing roll stiffness.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STN_Pat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Total ignorance.

I run a 24mm adjustable progress bar since 2 years now w/o any subframe tear out problem. Look at the brackets....they're pretty simple AND pretty effective..I ran moderatly stiff springs with it (400 to 700). I really love the bar...

PS Rusted subframe wich have seen like 14 winters w/o rust protection are more prone to tear out than anything out there...</TD></TR></TABLE>

pat
the 24mm bar,
is that the adjustable one?

I remember they had an adjustable race version,
but for some reason I thought it was only 22m?

 

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w/e man I put in my part and I posted a link to a person who used the same setup with ASR and extra steel reinforement and still toor.
BTW he owns a 2000 EX they all come undercoated

 

speedjunky01, I didn't meant to be rude.

What you're saying does not apply to the progress bar nor the 92-95 subframe. You just misunderstood that part.

Tad, Yes it is the 24mm adjustable race unit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedjunky01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">w/e man I put in my part and I posted a link to a person who used the same setup with ASR and extra steel reinforement and still toor.
BTW he owns a 2000 EX they all come undercoated </TD></TR></TABLE>

as far as that sentence, I was speaking of MY subframe with isn't in superb, rust free condition. It didn't tear out after 2 years of hard driving (about 20 lapping and solo events) with the PROGRESS bar and great, wisely designed brackets.

 

ok ok, Im sorry man I was being an ***. hard to read emotions over the internet forum lol.

I got ya now .

 

Very true,
the progress brackets are designed very well.

I don't know if it was luck or ingenuity, but basically you need not worry about tearout with these.

 

just to sum things up,

i found out progress actually makes its own 24mm bar, and it's an adjustable bar, so you can tune it's stiffness to your liking.

definetely one of the best bars money can buy.
(only a'lil over 200bux!)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedjunky01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Total ignorance.....
http://www.sohchonda.com/forum...frame

ran with the ASR subrframe reinfocement and a 22mm bar. the ITR was made to run it, it can be done but unless you just sit there and stare at the car or just drivt it on the track it will tear if you go to a parking garage or hit a bump or grove in the pavement just right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"I have a good thread about this when it happened to me, 22mm ITR rear swaybar, and Beak's kit in place... " from http://www.sohchonda.com/forum....html posted by the same guy you linked to. He said he was running the Beaks kit....

here's the original thread: http://www.sohchonda.com/forum....html

 

FYI if you thinking that the progress bar is stiffer then the JDM ITR bar, you could be wrong.

you can't just go off of the listed size and say its stiffer