Apparently the timming belt for the JDM motor is slightly wider and the teeth are closer then the american motor, does this sound correct? Has anyone ever changed the timming belt on their JDM h22a? Please let m know if anyone has had experiance with this. thanks!
Matt

 

yeah mine was like that too.

 

i have a JDM H22a, using a USDM belt no problem...... it did sit just slightly diff.....

 

i just ordered the american timing belt for mine. havnt ran the car but its on there so...

 

If the motor is jdm than it should have low miles, if it does then just use the jdm belt, its a lot stronger and will last longer than most aftermarket belts. also, did you get the manual tensioner yet? if not then make sure you DO get it. The auto tensioner will eventually break if you drive hard.

 

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Wow, that must be true.. but unless you get a front clip with the guage cluster intact its pretty much a shot in the dark as to how many miles it actually has.. so dont be retarded and give out **** poor advice.. the bare min he should swap the t-belt, oil pump and water pump while the engine is out of the car to be sure that in 5k miles its not going to take a dump on you. Auto tensioner replacement is ok but it's not how you drive its my experience if you have some head work done eg.. high lift cams and stiffer springs that push the auto tensioner to fail and at that point you should get the h23 manual tensioner. And the BS about the JDM belt being stronger.. yea.. just keep on reading Turbo Magazine and spewing BS to the masses.. you probably think it adds 25hp to the wheels too huh.. get a clue tard and stop giving out worthless advice.

 

I never noticed a difference when I did my timing belt change. If fit perfect. But you should only buy Honda OEM timing belts and you should also do the manual tensiner conversion. This is a writeup, be sure to check out the last page of it as well. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=549516

 

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Mileage is not the only thing you need to worry about when deciding to change it or not. Visual inspection, as well as age are other factors. It's better to change it now that to wait IMO.

I have a USDM belt on mine for the past 20K miles.

 

I have yet to figureout how a JDM timing belt is stronger.....

I have used OEM Honda, Gates and Goodyear timing belts without an issue on multiple USDM and JDM h22's without seeing any difference in install or life of belt.

 

Yea but to me the comfort of knowing that the belt was OK'd by honda gives me a piece of mind when it comes to my $2k engine.

And if you buy them online from Majestic, Or SLHonda tehy are no more expensive than the generic - Autozone NAPA stuff. And from my experience sometimes cheaper.

 

i agree about the pricing, but i do not honestly beleive that the honda belt is anything different than a gates belt. that is until someone shows me the Honda owned timing belt factory.

 

[QUOTE=v4lu3s]I have yet to figureout how a JDM timing belt is stronger.....
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OMG you didnt get that memo.. it also adds 50hp too and makes your JDM prelude AWD.

 

I am not one of those people that think EVERYTHING has to be honda, but there are some items I find it is not worth the risk!!

Bearings, water pump, oil pump, Timing components, Seals and gaskets

I would never replace any of these with aftermarket. Unless I built an engine that for some reason the OEM honda wasn't going to be sufficient for.

Again this is just my opinion, agree or disagree if you like!

 

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Do you know how long that belt has been on the engine? Honda recommends 6 years or 90,000 belt replacement on the H22 from 93-93 and 7years 105K on the 97-01 but i would still change it @ 90k. I did a j spec swap for a kid that insisted on using the t-belt on the car already and 3,100 miles later it broke on him @ the track while he was racing. Bent 9 valves yadda yadda yadda.... IMO I'd replace it before the motor is installed and also get rid of that junk auto tensioner. Just my 2cents

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Mileage is not the only thing you need to worry about when deciding to change it or not. Visual inspection, as well as age are other factors. It's better to change it now that to wait IMO.

I have a USDM belt on mine for the past 20K miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed! USDM belts work just fine

 

first of all when i said they were stronger i was talking about OEM HONDA JACKASS NOT JUST JDM. and yeah if your buying a jdm motor the ods are you want it cause they ARE KNOWN FOR HAVEING LOWWWWW MILAGE. if you just want a h22 then go to a junk yard and pay 500 bucks. WHY PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLORS ON A MOTOR TO HAVE TO CHANGE MOST OF THE CRAP ON IT???? and im guessing you have never seen a broken auto tensioner right?? DUHHH IF HE IS CHANGING THE BELT HE MINE AS WELL DO THE TENSIONER AT THE SAME TIME.. WHY DO IT LATER?? oh i must be dumb right? ive NEVER seen anyone stick up for the PRELUDE AUTO TENSIONER LIKE YOU DID!! you just showed me that there still are idiots out there who think they know about honda.

 

wow people are getting violent. i didnt notice a difference between my belts i will havta go look at that some day and see if there is. but i went oe honda timing belt and got gates drive belts. companies like gates belts are produced to oe specs so whats the big difference? although i normally prefer oe honda parts on important stuff just for the ease of mind, but my usdm belt fit on there just fine fitment wise but installation wise the belts are a pain in the **** to slide on. and def. do the manual conversion.

 

Seems like I confused some of you guys, the motor is already in the car and has been for about 61K, which seems to make sense with the supposed 30K on the motor when I got it.

I wish I would have been able to do the timming belt myself, but the car broke down about four hours from my house. I did get lucky on a coulpe of points: I had just slowed down to 25 MPH w/ a sheriff ridding my *** for the past 15 miles, who then proceeded to pass me after I put my 4 ways on and pulled off the hwy .

The jack *** doing the work ordered the wrong tensioner, which was the only thing that actually broke, the belt never did. Then, after wasting a day getting the right tensioner, ordered the wrong ******* belt!

Once he told me the belt was different I eventually realized there would be a part number on it, which I found out was no different than the USDM motor, except that Honda changed the part number from ending in -001 to -014 for some reason.

Either way for replacing the tensioner, both belts, and H20 pump, I figured $500 wasn't the worst I could have been charged, especially when you consider the towing fee of a 250 mile trip!

Next time I take the car apart I will deffinetly be doing the conversion because there is no doubt I drive the **** out of my car, hence the reason why the tensioner broke. Thanks for everyone's input, it's just too bad the write up link isn't working

 

heres a new link. you may havta register for his forum b4 u can see it.
http://candk.collectiveracing....c=9.0

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AccludePower &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first of all when i said they were stronger i was talking about OEM HONDA JACKASS NOT JUST JDM. and yeah if your buying a jdm motor the ods are you want it cause they ARE KNOWN FOR HAVEING LOWWWWW MILAGE. if you just want a h22 then go to a junk yard and pay 500 bucks. WHY PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLORS ON A MOTOR TO HAVE TO CHANGE MOST OF THE CRAP ON IT???? and im guessing you have never seen a broken auto tensioner right?? DUHHH IF HE IS CHANGING THE BELT HE MINE AS WELL DO THE TENSIONER AT THE SAME TIME.. WHY DO IT LATER?? oh i must be dumb right? ive NEVER seen anyone stick up for the PRELUDE AUTO TENSIONER LIKE YOU DID!! you just showed me that there still are idiots out there who think they know about honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm you said, "If the motor is jdm than it should have low miles, if it does then just use the jdm belt, its a lot stronger and will last longer than most aftermarket belts."

i think you made it pretty clear you were talkin about the jdm belt and not any oem belt. but whatevers.


let me ask you have you worked at an engine importer shop? i used to work at one, and it's not uncommon to see many of these low milage jdm motors come in with close to 100,000 km on the clock. thats like roughly 60k miles. and besides that, these motors are at least 12-14yrs old. if you trust a timing belt with unknown mileage and age, that's your problem and your motor. but don't go around telling everyone else to go do such moronic actions.

 

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hmmm you said, "If the motor is jdm than it should have low miles, if it does then just use the jdm belt, its a lot stronger and will last longer than most aftermarket belts."

i think you made it pretty clear you were talkin about the jdm belt and not any oem belt. but whatevers.


let me ask you have you worked at an engine importer shop? i used to work at one, and it's not uncommon to see many of these low milage jdm motors come in with close to 100,000 km on the clock. thats like roughly 60k miles. and besides that, these motors are at least 12-14yrs old. if you trust a timing belt with unknown mileage and age, that's your problem and your motor. but don't go around telling everyone else to go do such moronic actions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hit the nail on the head right there . Most of the jdm motors are from 91 you can check the year by lookin at the date on the head. more then likely the T-belt has not been changed so why chance it

 

my jdm motor is from a 95 lude so doing the math...the guy at hmo said the motors usually sit for like 6-10 yrs so if i take 8 years sitting that leaves me 3 years of being driven at the average of 12,000 miles in the usa so roughly 36,000 miles on my motor. i know there's no equation that will tell you your miles but this is just a decent ballpark range for me. without taking in the idea of how much less driving they do in japan. although the mileage isnt detrimental for a new t-belt the years are so just replace the t-belt. and if you order from a company with a warranty then you havta replace it ne ways or you void the warranty