okay well heres the problem i have a 97 Acura integra rs non abs. i have recently added Powerslot Slotted/dimpled rotors and EBC green stuff pads on the front. For the rear i have brembo blanks and ebcs pads also. i have SS brake lines all over.. they were all installed about a month ago. now heres the issue today i went *spririted* driving and well after not much it seemed as if the pads were glazed. now but also noticed that if i gave the pedal more than usual force it started to actually grab almost as normal. now should these pads really be glazing this quickly or could it be that the caliper is boiling the fliud. for fluid im running prestone in the yellow bottle. another thing i did notice is that the rotors look kinda dark like heat effect.. so i dont know im lost

any suggestions to make my brake system work the way it should....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toofast4u752 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay well heres the problem i have a 97 Acura integra rs non abs. i have recently added Powerslot Slotted/dimpled rotors and EBC green stuff pads on the front. For the rear i have brembo blanks and ebcs pads also. i have SS brake lines all over.. they were all installed about a month ago. now heres the issue today i went *spririted* driving and well after not much it seemed as if the pads were glazed. now but also noticed that if i gave the pedal more than usual force it started to actually grab almost as normal. now should these pads really be glazing this quickly or could it be that the caliper is boiling the fliud. for fluid im running prestone in the yellow bottle. another thing i did notice is that the rotors look kinda dark like heat effect.. so i dont know im lost

any suggestions to make my brake system work the way it should....</TD></TR></TABLE>

EBC = *****.

now, is the pedal getting progressively softer as you push it down, or is it staying firm? if it's staying firm but the car isn't stopping, it sounds like a pad problem. if it's just getting softer and eventually getting to the floor, then it's a fluid issue.

did you bed the pads at all? also, i'd look at using a different fluid like ATE superblue or at least the valvoline synpower. Also, your rotors aren't really helping you, but that's another issue.

and lastly, and most importantly: don't drive like a jackass on the street.

basically your setup would be totally inadequate for a track day, the worst offenders being the pads and the fluid.

 

so what would you recomend as far as pads?

 

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something from carbotech. maybe the xp8's. whatever the new cobalt pad is that is equivalent to the GT-Sports. the porterfield R4S, or the hawk HP+ would also be better off than the EBC's.

 

thanks i have actually only heard of hawk from your list i will do some reserch on the others. but rotorwize whats wrong with the powerslots? as you can see im a newb. ive been to some local track days to watch. i was hoping my setup would be decent. well live&learn.

thanks!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toofast4u752 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks i have actually only heard of hawk from your list i will do some reserch on the others. but rotorwize whats wrong with the powerslots? as you can see im a newb. ive been to some local track days to watch. i was hoping my setup would be decent. well live&learn.

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Slotted and dimpled rotors are expensive for nothing, and remove valuable material and heat capacity. they are also structurally weaker than a blank rotor and are more prone to cracking. some people like the scrubbing effect of slotted rotors on brake pads, personally i can't tell the difference and don't want to pay extra for them. they also lead to quicker brake pad consumption...

however, for the most part, you'll be ok with your powerslots for the time being. just replace em down the line with a blank rotor.

your brake system would be track day ready, for the most part, if you checked out the pads i suggested to you, got some motul rbf600 or ate superblue. some links:

http://www.carbotecheng.com
http://www.cobaltfriction.com

 

I use the carbotech bobcats for trackdays and autox on a car that is decently quick,(runs13.6 in the quarter) and I am completely satisfied. I have a 94 civic dx and even with its insufficient brake system, the bobcats and carbotech rotors made a night and day difference. you would probably rather run these everyday and xp8 or 9 for a track day as they deal with heat better....