best NA setup for b series vtec 20000$ budget
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From: AmmanJordan, Jordan
best NA setup for b series vtec 20000$ budget
i'm going to put 20000 bucks for tuning a b16/18 engine, i want n/a setup no turbo no SC.
what do u think about TODA full engine tune and cusco lsd?!
for more info about TODA parts http://www.tdi-plc.com/todaB16.html
what do u think about TODA full engine tune and cusco lsd?!
for more info about TODA parts http://www.tdi-plc.com/todaB16.html
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i admire the k20, but due to legal problems in my country, its not possible to to swap from 1.6 liters to 2.0, the maximum is 1.8! stupid i know, they can give u ticket for installing a sub and amp too! freaks
http://www.toda-europe.com/cat...th=23
i'm nearly buying everything plus engine managment system
http://www.toda-europe.com/cat...th=23
i'm nearly buying everything plus engine managment system
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it seems nice, but i wanna go more than that, i wanna build a monster n/a engine, i already have the engine, the 20000$ is just for tuning, i have a b16a and i'll put it on a rex i'll use for auto cross and hell climb
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OK it's rant time!!
First you said you are not in the US so what does 20K equal in USD or are you really going to put the price of a nice used corvette into a 15 year old car?
If so don't do it, even as a big fan I'd pass out to hear you did that. So much more to spend it on then a car esp just a honda.
Now for 20K you can do most anything you want. N/A is all you said nothing about things you want out of the motor max power life doesn't matter? What do you plan to do with this car? Do you have safety/smog laws you need to follow?
First you said you are not in the US so what does 20K equal in USD or are you really going to put the price of a nice used corvette into a 15 year old car?
If so don't do it, even as a big fan I'd pass out to hear you did that. So much more to spend it on then a car esp just a honda.
Now for 20K you can do most anything you want. N/A is all you said nothing about things you want out of the motor max power life doesn't matter? What do you plan to do with this car? Do you have safety/smog laws you need to follow?
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For all we know hes from a place like turkey and didn't factor exchange rate, it might be like $13 USD
If hes putting 20K into his car well he hopfully has 0 debt and his kids *or will be kids* college paid for or hes a very foolish man.
For all we know hes from a place like turkey and didn't factor exchange rate, it might be like $13 USD
If hes putting 20K into his car well he hopfully has 0 debt and his kids *or will be kids* college paid for or hes a very foolish man.
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Composimo is fully restoring a CRX. I imagine that budget coming close... maybe even going over that.
Altho I really admire the incredible quality of workmanship and effort (and new parts) put in that project... I just can't see myself putting that kind of $ in an old car either.
But on the other handm it may be 15yrs old... so imagine how much better it's going to be than most new cars costing maybe even 3x more.
So it's a debatable point. Definately not a good investment. But what car is?
Altho I really admire the incredible quality of workmanship and effort (and new parts) put in that project... I just can't see myself putting that kind of $ in an old car either.
But on the other handm it may be 15yrs old... so imagine how much better it's going to be than most new cars costing maybe even 3x more.
So it's a debatable point. Definately not a good investment. But what car is?
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i meant US dollars guys, and no i wont put any money to buy a stupid corvette or anything like it, and here in jordan my rex cost me like 7000 US dolars and its 1988 and with no options at all (just a/c) cuz of customs and taxs, i got a good deal from a sponser that going to put that amount of money on my car for advertising! so why not the REX?! am i right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zenon8890 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i got a good deal from a sponser that going to put that amount of money on my car for advertising! so why not the REX?! am i right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your either lying or you and your sponsor are crazy! 20k US into a n/a engine!?
Your either lying or you and your sponsor are crazy! 20k US into a n/a engine!?
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I'd never put that amount of money into a B series. I'd do a K series and make it a track car. A lot of K series with bolt ons are outperforming built B series motors.
On second thought, I'd just use the $20k to buy me a used S2000.
On second thought, I'd just use the $20k to buy me a used S2000.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ***-assin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK it's rant time!!
First you said you are not in the US so what does 20K equal in USD or are you really going to put the price of a nice used corvette into a 15 year old car?
If so don't do it, even as a big fan I'd pass out to hear you did that. So much more to spend it on then a car esp just a honda.
Now for 20K you can do most anything you want. N/A is all you said nothing about things you want out of the motor max power life doesn't matter? What do you plan to do with this car? Do you have safety/smog laws you need to follow?
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I should run and hide then... I have well over 20k in my CRX. It took me over 4 years to do it.
For me its a hobby that I enjoy doing and not an investment, if it were an investment then I would be a fool. If it took every last cent I earned I'd be a fool.
Are there other cars that would have a better cost vs. performance ratio than a CRX? Definitely.
But if it is a car you love and you can afford it…. Why not?
Is someone a fool for paying $10000 for courtside seats at a championship basketball game? Or $5000 to go on vacation somewhere you have never been? Or how about the guy that spent $10,000,000 to go into outer space?
Not if you can afford it and it doesn’t impact your budget.
Would it be wiser to put 20k into a STI, EVO, RSX or the like? Does it matter? You wouldn’t get your money out of it then either.
Sorry about the rant….
Now back to the subject at hand, $20000 for a N/A CRX.
I would say the N/A forum would be a great place to start off with for your build.
What kind of fuel do you plan on running? This will help you decide on a compression ratio.
Do you want to bore out your block to increase your displacement while still sporting the 1.8L block tag? If so you will require sleeving your block to really make a difference.
You are going to want forged internals, maybe some carrillo rods and CP/Wiseco pistons?
You will want some headwork and valvetrain, there are quite a few good head porters these days.
Cams? These should be chosen based on the rest of your engine, displacement, compression and expected operating range (RPM’s).
ITB’s? can you run them with out getting in trouble? If you can, do it.
LSD? I prefer the Quaife. That’s just me though.
Engine management? I would think Hondata would be fine, but more importantly, get what your tuner knows best. Trust me on this one.
I still find it hard to put $20000 into a N/A engine alone, but if it is for your whole car, then I don't see why not.
First you said you are not in the US so what does 20K equal in USD or are you really going to put the price of a nice used corvette into a 15 year old car?
If so don't do it, even as a big fan I'd pass out to hear you did that. So much more to spend it on then a car esp just a honda.
Now for 20K you can do most anything you want. N/A is all you said nothing about things you want out of the motor max power life doesn't matter? What do you plan to do with this car? Do you have safety/smog laws you need to follow?
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I should run and hide then... I have well over 20k in my CRX. It took me over 4 years to do it.
For me its a hobby that I enjoy doing and not an investment, if it were an investment then I would be a fool. If it took every last cent I earned I'd be a fool.
Are there other cars that would have a better cost vs. performance ratio than a CRX? Definitely.
But if it is a car you love and you can afford it…. Why not?
Is someone a fool for paying $10000 for courtside seats at a championship basketball game? Or $5000 to go on vacation somewhere you have never been? Or how about the guy that spent $10,000,000 to go into outer space?
Not if you can afford it and it doesn’t impact your budget.
Would it be wiser to put 20k into a STI, EVO, RSX or the like? Does it matter? You wouldn’t get your money out of it then either.
Sorry about the rant….
Now back to the subject at hand, $20000 for a N/A CRX.
I would say the N/A forum would be a great place to start off with for your build.
What kind of fuel do you plan on running? This will help you decide on a compression ratio.
Do you want to bore out your block to increase your displacement while still sporting the 1.8L block tag? If so you will require sleeving your block to really make a difference.
You are going to want forged internals, maybe some carrillo rods and CP/Wiseco pistons?
You will want some headwork and valvetrain, there are quite a few good head porters these days.
Cams? These should be chosen based on the rest of your engine, displacement, compression and expected operating range (RPM’s).
ITB’s? can you run them with out getting in trouble? If you can, do it.
LSD? I prefer the Quaife. That’s just me though.
Engine management? I would think Hondata would be fine, but more importantly, get what your tuner knows best. Trust me on this one.
I still find it hard to put $20000 into a N/A engine alone, but if it is for your whole car, then I don't see why not.
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Our 'Big B' 2.2L Stroked/Bored B series costed us 16 grand, and made 262whp...of course it blew up after 15 passes on the dyno and 5 passes on the 1/4. It blew up on the dyno, actually it leaned out and cracked the pistons/valves, still ran a 12.4 with part of a piston ring stuck to the throttle body, no joke.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Our 'Big B' 2.2L Stroked/Bored B series costed us 16 grand, and made 262whp...of course it blew up after 15 passes on the dyno and 5 passes on the 1/4. It blew up on the dyno, actually it leaned out and cracked the pistons/valves, still ran a 12.4 with part of a piston ring stuck to the throttle body, no joke.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol.. That's a sick build.
Seriously though, if you can't go k20, don't bother. I'm leaving my b16 swap stock and just saving up for the k20 now.. It isn't worth it to put cash into an antiquated motor.
Lol.. That's a sick build.
Seriously though, if you can't go k20, don't bother. I'm leaving my b16 swap stock and just saving up for the k20 now.. It isn't worth it to put cash into an antiquated motor.
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we'll i work in advertisment company and i convenced the sponcer it will be a good advertisment for them, it worked. well about why i choose the rex, cuz they'll be like 10 to 15 evos,10sti's,30 bimmers in a race, so choosing something different is a good thing to catch the eyes of ppl, and i thought of the CRX. i saw a video on the net for J's racing crx and i got the idea from them, i just loved the crx they have.
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well maybe u r right, but if the cash is free, why not?!!!
and since my sponsers are the authorized dealers for toda racing in the middle east, the got the engine and the parts and fuel and slicks ...ect
well maybe u r right, but if the cash is free, why not?!!!
and since my sponsers are the authorized dealers for toda racing in the middle east, the got the engine and the parts and fuel and slicks ...ect
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Re: best NA setup for b series vtec 20000$ budget (zenon8890)
sponsors giving you 20k and got a hookup with toda? might as well go all out then with those toda parts,,,But put some of that money into suspension and tires as well cause whats the point if you can get traction......
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zenon8890 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i admire the k20, but due to legal problems in my country, its not possible to to swap from 1.6 liters to 2.0, the maximum is 1.8! stupid i know, </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure I could stomach dumping 20K into a car in over a year. Just the thought of it hurts. It wouldn't bother me though dumping 20K into a car over 4-5 years though its seems more rational, lol.
Okay back to the topic at hand. How in the world are they going to know you have a 1.6 or a 1.8 liter? I would just do a K20 it could be a destroked K20 how in the world would they know. If you really want to keep the b-series though just build something loco like a 2.2 or a 2.4 liter B16, they will never know because the block will still be stamped b16.
I'm not sure I could stomach dumping 20K into a car in over a year. Just the thought of it hurts. It wouldn't bother me though dumping 20K into a car over 4-5 years though its seems more rational, lol.
Okay back to the topic at hand. How in the world are they going to know you have a 1.6 or a 1.8 liter? I would just do a K20 it could be a destroked K20 how in the world would they know. If you really want to keep the b-series though just build something loco like a 2.2 or a 2.4 liter B16, they will never know because the block will still be stamped b16.